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Brian 23rd February 2006 10:13

Re: V-1 flying bombs
 
Hi Mhuxt - book due out in June (hopefully!) to be published by Grub Street of London. I assume they take credit cards. I will let you know further details asap. Thanks.

Hi Mieszko - thanks, but my book covers V-1 operations only. Sorry!

Cheers
Brian

mhuxt 23rd February 2006 11:32

Re: V-1 flying bombs
 
Hi Mieszko:

I'm interested if you have details.

Cheers,

Mark

Mieszko 24th February 2006 20:22

Re: V-1 flying bombs
 
Hello Brian and Mark!

Mark here is what I have;

On Dec. 12th 1944 w/o Sylwester Wieczorek (pilot) and w/o Henryk Ostrowski of 307 Sqn departed Coltishall on a night "intruder" mission to Holand flying a Mosquito Mk30, MV542/EW-Y. At about 300ft they entered clouds and started circling to gain altitude before heading out towards Holland. About 15min after takeoff while still in the clouds they collided with something. The Mosquito fell into a spin, however the pilot was able to regain control and forceland/crash. Both crew members survived and were told by RAF brass that they collided with a V-2. Wieczorek and Ostrowski were credited with destroying a V-2.

The above is was taken from two different books about 307 Sqn. One by Robert Gretzinger, and I forget the author of the other.

This is suppose to be the only V-2 destroyed over England. Dumb luck more than anything else, I suppose.

Cheers,
Mieszko

mhuxt 24th February 2006 22:22

Re: V-1 flying bombs
 
Thanks Mieszko.

Cheers,

Mark

George Hopp 25th February 2006 04:16

Re: V-1 flying bombs
 
Quote:

Both crew members survived and were told by RAF brass that they collided with a V-2. Wieczorek and Ostrowski were credited with destroying a V-2.
Do you really mean V-2? Perhaps V-1, but destroying a V-2 would truly have been something!! In fact, it would have been unique.

Mieszko 25th February 2006 09:03

Re: V-1 flying bombs
 
Hello George,

Yup, V-2 it is. In the 307 Sqn history "Przez ciemnie nocy" (Through the dark of night) by Andrzej R. Janczak (pgs 256-257) there is a detailed account of the incident, and later in the same book 307 Sqn is credited with one He111/V-1, and one V-2. In Robert Gretzyngier's book, 307 Sqn is also credited with a V-2.

Cheers,
Mieszko

Stig Jarlevik 25th February 2006 21:36

Re: V-1 flying bombs
 
Dear Mieszko

This is very confusing!
According to Foreman and his book Fighter Command War Diaries, 307 Sq is not even mentioned on this day!! He does not give credit to anything from 307Sq that day. No victory and no loss!!

Luckily I can verify that MV542 is listed as having hit an "object" in the sky on the 12th (RAF Aircraft series by Air Britain)

The main question is however HOW it was determined that they were hit by a V-2 rocket and how the "Brass" was able to verify that!! Can anyone verify this from PRO files??

Cheers
Stig

Mieszko 26th February 2006 00:12

Re: V-1 flying bombs
 
Hello Stig,

The only information I have is from the two books I mentioned. Where, when, how the RAF determined what the Mosquito hit beats me. I'll leave it to the historians/researchers to fill in the details.

Cheers,
Mieszko

Alex Smart 26th February 2006 06:14

Re: V-1 flying bombs
 
Hello Brian,

Don't know if you have this already.
But AFAIK this pilot has never been credited as an ace although he had more than 5 plus 5 V1's to his credit.
Dates for V1 kills
May 9th 44 in a Beau VI - WM-Y
July 23rd 44 in a Mosquito XVII - WM-L
August 16th 44 in a Mosquito XIX - WM-Y
August 16th again in a Mosquito XIX - WM-Y
September 9th 44 in a Mosquito XVII - WM-N
Details as per Log book.
Same crew each kill, Harvey and Southerland.
I dont know how many were stopped on the dates given.
All for now
Alex

mhuxt 26th February 2006 23:12

Re: V-1 flying bombs
 
Hi Alex:

Do you have crew ranks and initials for the above? Is 68 Squadron the correct unit?

TIA,

Mark


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