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John Manrho 28th May 2015 22:11

Re: Loss German fighter 7-4-1945
 
Harrie,

I checked my files and books and I believe the story in this book comes originally from "1945, Drentsche Kroniek van het bevrijdingsjaar" by Mr. G.A.Bontekoe originally published in 1947. It was reprinted later. In there it is stated in Dutch;

"7.4.1945: Op 1 km ten NW van Anloo valt een Duitse piloot dood wegens weigering van zijn parachute. Toestel stort neer in Zuidlaren".

Well, this gives me basically two thoughts;

1) There was heavy fighting going on around that time in that area and parachute might be indicating Fallschirmjäger which were also active as ground forces. So, I think we might have been misled here.

2) However, on the remainder the book is accurate on aircraft losses (date and location), so why would it be different.

The answer is probably in the community files of Zuidlaren. Check the burial records of the germans who were buried there. That might give you a clue.

regards,

John

Harrie 2nd June 2015 11:56

Re: Loss German fighter 7-4-1945
 
Hi John,

Thank you for replying, I will check the burial records of Zuidlaren,another possibility could be community of Anloo, but first Zuidlaren.
I keep in touch.

regards harrie

Harrie 4th June 2015 22:26

Re: Loss German fighter 7-4-1945
 
Hello all,
Recently i followed John,s advice and Rutger,s and i maybe have a clue/match for 7 april 1945 loss.
Idid some field-work at the community and found a flieger from fliegerhorst Kaufbeuren.
I don,t know is there a protocoll for this cases ?.
At this time it.s not my intention to give names according to privacy on the net.
Can anybody give advice ??.

Regards harrie

Jaap Woortman 4th June 2015 23:07

Re: Loss German fighter 7-4-1945
 
May be it is wise to check Huizinga's archive in the Regional Historical Centre Groningen archives.
See www.groningerarchieven.nl

Jaap

John Manrho 5th June 2015 00:07

Re: Loss German fighter 7-4-1945
 
Harrie,

Please be aware that at the former Kriegslazarett Zuidlaren (Dennenoord) some 138 dead Germans were buried who were all transferred to Ysselsteyn in 1947. The majority were killed from March 15th till April 30th (~91). In general 50% of these men were from Fallschirmjäger or Fliegerregimente and had nothing to do with air units.

You can verify names on the VDK Datenbank. The graves at ysselsteyn are AU-1 till AU-138.

I have no graves at the former community of Anloo.

Regards,

John

Harrie 5th June 2015 09:32

Re: Loss German fighter 7-4-1945
 
I have additional info from the grabmeldung maybe this is a clue-

Truppenteil a./Flg.Ers.Btl.7 Kaufbeuren

Dienstgrad -Flieger
Tod durch feindliche fliegerbeschuss -schadelzertrummerung .
todestag 7-4-1945
The VDK Datenbank has no succes.

John Manrho 5th June 2015 20:26

Re: Loss German fighter 7-4-1945
 
That is not a pilot. It's a Luftwaffe soldier killed on the ground.

Harrie 10th January 2020 15:34

Re: Loss German fighter 7-4-1945
 
Hi Gentlemen , especially Rudiger Kaufmann, John Manr0
At this moment there are some new-clues wich indicate that it is not a hoax. By much conversations and locals Association resulting in personal clues that indeed a German Fighter crashed on that perticular day . It was the same area and almost same day Operation Amherst started and German troops get involved with French sticks . The question is : Can it be possible that on that day a single german Bf-109 could fly to the Groningen /Zuidlaren area ???? , or anotherone from Fliegerhorst Eelde not a bf109.
The area were talkin about is preserved area . Hope to hear some advice

Kindly regards harrie


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