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TigerTimon 4th February 2022 22:25

Re: Heinrich zu Sayn-Wittgenstein
 
Yes, I remember reading that too. That was on Wikipedia I believe.
I don't know if that's trustworthy. Maybe the Wikipedia page has been changed in the mean time, that you can't find the source anymore?

You too a good weekend!

Timon

knusel 4th February 2022 22:41

Re: Heinrich zu Sayn-Wittgenstein
 
Yes, that sounds familiar
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinri...n-Wittgenstein
and the wording suggests that no kills were scored on that occasion.

edwest2 4th February 2022 22:54

Re: Heinrich zu Sayn-Wittgenstein
 
Here is an article from the FalkeEins blog that I think is helpful:


http://falkeeins.blogspot.com/2011/0...-fighters.html

knusel 4th February 2022 22:58

Re: Heinrich zu Sayn-Wittgenstein
 
Yes, apropos Günther Bertram, have you ever come across a photo of this He 111 top scorer ?

edwest2 4th February 2022 23:32

Re: Heinrich zu Sayn-Wittgenstein
 
I have not.

knusel 4th February 2022 23:56

Re: Heinrich zu Sayn-Wittgenstein
 
Neither have I. But I have a photo of joint He 111 two scorer Waldemar Teige.
See also my German nightfighter aces by plane type thread:
http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showth...t=45031&page=7

Jim P. 5th February 2022 00:30

Re: Heinrich zu Sayn-Wittgenstein
 
Try finding Claire Rose Knott's "Princes of Darkness", Ian Allan, 1-903223-95-6. It is a nice bio of both Heinrich Prinz zu Sayn-Wittgenstein & Egmont Prinz zur Lippe Weissenfeld.

(Sayn-Wittgenstein's first combat sorties were flown as an observer in He 111s in KG 1 in 1939 and early-1940.)

richdlc 5th February 2022 11:15

Re: Heinrich zu Sayn-Wittgenstein
 
I would second that. It mentions Zur Lippe-Weissenfeld's single victory only in a Do 17.

TigerTimon 5th February 2022 12:16

Re: Heinrich zu Sayn-Wittgenstein
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by knusel (Post 315942)
Yes, that sounds familiar
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinri...n-Wittgenstein
and the wording suggests that no kills were scored on that occasion.

How I read the Wikipedia article - a short flight - makes me think of a non-operational sortie.

Teresa Maria 5th February 2022 13:55

Re: Heinrich zu Sayn-Wittgenstein
 
I once read a book about night fighters (it was about Helmut Lent, Heinz Schnauffer, Heinrich zu Sayn-Wittgenstein, etc.; it may have been The Lent Papers, but I'm not sure) and I remember they flew Bf 110s, but I may not remember exactly.


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