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vvkj41 25th December 2015 12:01

Re: WW2 USAF airmen MIA over Yugoslavia
 
Hello again Alex,

You sure gave me very good material for weekend! It’s completely new to me. Many thanks! I would like to add one name on your FG losses list.

11/7/1944 - P-38J-15-LO - 43-28662 - 95th FS/82nd FG - 2/Lt Coulson, Eldon – KIA

Shot down in same combat as 2/Lt Brewer, Phillip. Both of them still buried here.

Best Regards

Aleks

researcher111 25th December 2015 20:21

Re: WW2 USAF airmen MIA over Yugoslavia
 
Aleks , the last two mentioned by you along with Capt King were engaged and shot down by Soviet 866 IAP Capt Koldunov along with his wingmen Lt's Krivonogih , Shypulya and Zhestovsky due to an incident on the ground mistakenly caused by 82nd FG leading to the death of Soviet General. This however is little or not at all related to the started topic. If I may add the US grave commission may have moved their remains back to the central US cemeteries in France or US sometime between '46 - '49 . Hard to believe they are still buried in Yugoslavia unless the relatives desired so.The 2 Soviet pilots also KIA on same day may have also been repatriated later on .

vvkj41 28th December 2015 00:18

Re: WW2 USAF airmen MIA over Yugoslavia
 
Hello there Alex K,

You’re not off topic at all. I posted this one related to US aviators that are STILL in the missing category, like Brewer and Coulson. But not Cpt King. Captain King was not involved in aerial combat over Nis (Serbia) with Russians. He was downed on another location that same day, badly burned but alive. Take a look at IDPFs of Brewer/Coulson. If you don’t have them, please let me know.

Both, Brewer/Coulson are still buried here in Serbia, like 15-20 of US airmen as well. And it has nothing to do with wishes of their families or beloved ones or US Government WGC. They are just here, waiting. I started this topic because of them and other US aviators that are still here…

Kind Regards

Aleks

researcher111 28th December 2015 10:46

Re: WW2 USAF airmen MIA over Yugoslavia
 
Regarding both MIA 82FG pilots ,I don't know where did you pick up your info from , both Brewer and Coulson were declared MIA on Nov 7,1944 and their remains were never recovered due to a post crash fire . If there is a burial place in Yugoslavia this may just be a memorial only , either way please post a photo of the burial place you spoke about. In the mean time you may wanna look at this :

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg...599666&df=all&

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg...023158&df=all&


As into to King OK and regarding the other 15-20 airmen I can't speak without knowing who were they

vvkj41 29th December 2015 10:43

Re: WW2 USAF airmen MIA over Yugoslavia
 
Info came from Americans. Some sort of their commission visited Krusevac few months ago with information that Brewer is buried there (?!). They also claime that remains of him and Coulson are still here together with additional 16 US airmen. I don’t know about their source. I don’t know their names but I’m working on it.
According to witnesses both aviators or what was left of them were buried by Russians close to the gate of what today is Nis airfield. Two Russians pilots too. Small red wooden pyramid was posted on grave. If I understand well there is nothing there today that could point exact location of grave. Even if someone know the exact place , It’s not possible to take photo of location because part of Nis airfield is still military installation guarded by military police.
Thanks for links.
I noticed case X-56 via link that Alex S posted. P-38, November same year… Any ideas?

Aleks

researcher111 29th December 2015 11:47

Re: WW2 USAF airmen MIA over Yugoslavia
 
I understand ,but again as on previous posts I am convinced that no foreign
airman is burried overthere . Also both Russian pilots remains were buried in
1945 in Soviet Union one of them was even awarded the order of the Red Banner for that
incident. Lt.Gen.Grigory Kotov killed on the ground by 82 FG was initially buried in Nis
then reburied in Odessa . For your info US grave commission removed all known
US airmen remains burried in Eastern Europe and Balkans to either US or France US central
cemetries. In some cases and based upon family members wishes the remains
were not reinterred . As into X-56 case I have no idea what that is and I can't
help further

Alex K

researcher111 29th December 2015 15:31

Re: WW2 USAF airmen MIA over Yugoslavia
 
Regarding X-56 I have determined the meaning of your Q. The golden wedding ring of a deceased or KIA USMC enlisted or officer found at the wreckage of Lt Brewer not at all connected to Brewer is as puzzling as the fate of 2nd Lt.Lawrence A Grazin from Intl.Falls MN ( not L.L.Grazin ) a transport C-47 pilot of the 13th Air Force killed in non battle in South Pacific who was initially burried in Belgrade and later on in Hawai . Who knows what went wrong in WWII with mortuary shipping services of the US Armed Forces GC.

http://www.7tharmddiv.org/docrep/ima...ND%29/X-23.pdf

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg...776440&df=all&

https://www.wwiimemorial.com/Registr...noreeID=304080

vathra 28th January 2016 11:34

Re: WW2 USAF airmen MIA over Yugoslavia
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vvkj41 (Post 210844)
Hi Guys,

Could someone help me with names of the American airmen who are still listed as missing in operations over Yugoslavia during WW2? Thank you in advance.

Some 220 American airmen are still listed as missing over Yugoslavia.
Most of them over Adriatic, so finding their remains is impossible, unless they are still in the aircraft wreck.

vathra 28th January 2016 11:57

Re: WW2 USAF airmen MIA over Yugoslavia
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by researcher111 (Post 210943)
Larry & Aleks

Thanks for updating me , while this may be boring and certainly time consuming
for you, for me this a new subject , because I have a complete list of the US airmen
which rescued by Mihalovic Chetniks ( Halyard ) and those by Tito partisans
including
some captured by other fractions and Germans in 1943 ( Ops Tidalwave ) and 1944 enroute to or
returning from Romanian targets. I was not aware of any Dalmatian Chetniks which
may have operated near Austrian border and their atrocities against US airmen . In any
case thanks for the update again

That is very interesting claim, but I seriously doubt it.
How did you made this list?
How many names are on chetnik list?

researcher111 28th January 2016 12:51

Re: WW2 USAF airmen MIA over Yugoslavia
 
If you seriously doubt something then is worth sticking
to your doubts rather expect an answer , at least I would
do so ! Second of regarding your other post as into the
B-24 over Brod, there is no need for you to repeat the
stuff and details already given by the other,period .


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