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edNorth 25th May 2016 22:20

Re: List from TsAMO of 99 (!) German warplanes and 22 motors captured at the Chir (Tschir) station (Stalingrad area)
 
Yes, seems have been a rather large aircraft collection. I read somewhere shortages of transport back home, then damaged equipment (for repair) just piled up and was then cannibalized for spares on site.

2336 - Ju 88 A-5 [V4+IK] 2./KG 1 (Luftflotte 4 East) OPS (F) engine failure and belly landed (20% Er) near Nishtscherskaja 01.11.1942

edNorth 25th May 2016 22:32

Re: List from TsAMO of 99 (!) German warplanes and 22 motors captured at the Chir (Tschir) station (Stalingrad area)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RT (Post 218826)
Right, Ed, also printing them you save them as .png

Rémi

thanks, they are larger images that way!

Rasmussen 25th May 2016 22:48

Re: List from TsAMO of 99 (!) German warplanes and 22 motors captured at the Chir (Tschir) station (Stalingrad area)
 
p.64-68 some more machines

edNorth 25th May 2016 22:50

Re: List from TsAMO of 99 (!) German warplanes and 22 motors captured at the Chir (Tschir) station (Stalingrad area)
 
Little history here!

5502 Ju 88 A-4 [9K+AA] III/KG 51 (Luftflotte 4 East) OPS (F) dam by AA fire (15%) at PLQ 3135 [and force landing in enemy territory of Soviet Union] 23.08.1942 (B Obgefr. Günther Heyde and BF Obgefr. Walter Repinsky inj)

[Major Freiherr Ernst von Bibra and crew saved by Oblt. Poppenburg in A4 9K+AD (Dierich KG 51)]

Andrey Kuznetsov 25th May 2016 23:21

Re: List from TsAMO of 99 (!) German warplanes and 22 motors captured at the Chir (Tschir) station (Stalingrad area)
 
Hello Nikita,

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nikita Egorov (Post 218825)
All of these planes reported as lost within July-October 1942 with various degrees of damage.

So all planes are known?

Best regards,
Andrey

edNorth 25th May 2016 23:26

Re: List from TsAMO of 99 (!) German warplanes and 22 motors captured at the Chir (Tschir) station (Stalingrad area)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rasmussen (Post 218834)
p.64-68 some more machines

He 115 2729 8L+IH a little earlier, was a loss in Soviet ambush on lake Onega 22.10.42

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/536209899363242562/

https://books.google.is/books?id=9O4...inland&f=false

RT 25th May 2016 23:30

Re: List from TsAMO of 99 (!) German warplanes and 22 motors captured at the Chir (Tschir) station (Stalingrad area)
 
We go at least to Jan.43, as He111h-5/3673/CM+KK, was lost by KGrzbv20 on 8.Jan.43 at Nowotscherkassk FP

Rémi

edNorth 25th May 2016 23:37

Re: List from TsAMO of 99 (!) German warplanes and 22 motors captured at the Chir (Tschir) station (Stalingrad area)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrey Kuznetsov (Post 218838)
So all planes are known? Best regards, Andrey

Ju 88 "2076" is dubious, code likely 6M+DK, rather than GM+DK
but not found. - Ed

Nikita Egorov 25th May 2016 23:41

Re: List from TsAMO of 99 (!) German warplanes and 22 motors captured at the Chir (Tschir) station (Stalingrad area)
 
On the echelon there were planes reported as lost within July-early November. Others are supposed to be in a dump nearby. The same situation in Oblivskaya.

RT 25th May 2016 23:50

Re: List from TsAMO of 99 (!) German warplanes and 22 motors captured at the Chir (Tschir) station (Stalingrad area)
 
So all planes are known?


Probably, we will find a couple of new birds, the hell if in their situation the germans would be able to note all the planes left behind...

Rémi


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