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Tony Kambic

17th April 2006 19:09

Re: Photos 4-15

Possibilities on the B-17

From Tony Wood

14.07.43 Maj. Egon Mayer Stab/JG 2 B-17 10 km. N. Evreux
14.07.43 Maj. Helmut-Felix Bolz Stab I./JG 2 B-17 15 km. E. Evreux
14.07.43 Ltn. Horst Zettel Stab I./JG 2 B-17 10 km. N.W. Evreux
14.07.43 Oblt. Georg-Peter Eder 12./JG 2 B-17 1077/ 05 Ost
14.07.43 Ltn. Fritz Karch 6./JG 2 B-17 Douains 12 km. E. Évreux
14.07.43 Ltn. Georg Wroblewski: 1 3./JG 27 B-17 PD-1: 6.500 m. [Merlimont-Plage]
14.07.43 Oblt. Ivo Edler von Lübich 2./JG 105 B-17 BF-1:
14.07.43 Oblt. Georg-Peter Eder 12./JG 2 B-17 e.V. 1-2 km. W. Goussainville
14.07.43 Fw. Wilhelm Flegel von Farnholz 6./JG 2 B-17 HSS 1-2 km. W. Goussainville: 8.000 m. [Dreux]
14.07.43 Maj. Egon Mayer Stab/JG 2 B-17 S.W. Paris

From Kacha

70 14.7.1943 8:24 B-17 Stab/JG 2 SW Paris / B-17 of 94 BG, USAAG

The 'A' on the B-17 tail indicates 94th Bomb Group

Falcon

17th April 2006 22:48

Re: Photos 4-15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rabe Anton

Gruß Gott ModelVati!

No need to suffer bepuzzlement over the upper surface paint scheme on
Bf 109B/C/D WNr. 544, B V + E S or R V + E S (references not to hand to know if 544 was a Bertha, Caesar, or Dora; strongly suspect a Bertha). This is simply an early (and obsolete) Bf 109 that survived to serve in a training or noncombat establishment (note the decidedly noncombat aircraft in the background) in 1940 and later. A great many—probably all—such retired survivors received a repaint in due course, possibly after a mishap, possibly not.

RA

WNr. 544 was Bf 109 B build at Erla Leipzig. Source: Prien

Modeldad

18th April 2006 14:14

Re: Photos 4-15

Thank you gentlemen.

Not being one who keep track of work numbers and remanufactured airframes, I found it interesting in that it had factory codes, was in the greys, but clearly was an early model.

The pictures I have seen of eaerly 109s used in training have the large numbers and are in green(s).

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