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Leo Etgen 23rd July 2022 23:30

Alfred Lindenberger - 28 September 1944
 
Hello all

Yes, Michael, that would be a very interesting article to read! Perhaps you would be able to upload it to a file sharing site such as https://easyupload.io/ or https://wetransfer.com/ and post the link in the thread? I am also aware of Oberstleutnant Alexander von Winterfeldt, Leutnant Hans Krug, Generalmajor Otto Höhne, Oberst Harry von Bülow-Bothkamp and Oberst Paul Strähle being aces in World War I and later serving in operational units in World War II.

Horrido!

Leo

knusel 24th July 2022 11:36

Re: Alfred Lindenberger - 28 September 1944
 
Good morning Leo,

I'm interested in these guys, too.

I've sent you an eMail with the article attached.

Sincerely,

Michael

VtwinVince 24th July 2022 19:08

Re: Alfred Lindenberger - 28 September 1944
 
Osterkamp would have the highest combined total, if I'm not mistaken.

knusel 24th July 2022 20:49

Re: Alfred Lindenberger - 28 September 1944
 
Yes, 32+6 according to older sources.
But 29+2 according to Johannes Mathews.
I'm curious what Lance Bronnentkant will find out.

knusel 3rd August 2022 22:35

Re: Alfred Lindenberger - 28 September 1944
 
Of all the pilots who scored in both wars, Osterkamp hast the highest combined total. The second rank would be occupied by Harry von Bülow-Bothkamp but only if his 18 WW2 kills are more than a hoax. Does anybody of you know more about that ?

VtwinVince 4th August 2022 18:58

Re: Alfred Lindenberger - 28 September 1944
 
AFAIK the Bothkamp total is completely spurious. Which would put Mix as the next highest, followed by von Winterfelt. I also have Alfred Mueller, Gerhard Hubrich, Alfred Helm, Friedrich Vollbracht and Dr. Albrecht Ochs on my list.

knusel 4th August 2022 19:22

Re: Alfred Lindenberger - 28 September 1944
 
Good evening VtwinVince,

Alfred Müller is supposed to have scored three kills in WW1.
But I found only the dates of two so far:
5,3.17
25,3.17
Can you tell me the third ?

Have a good Thursday, sincerely,

Michael

VtwinVince 4th August 2022 19:33

Re: Alfred Lindenberger - 28 September 1944
 
I don't have that missing info, perhaps someone over at the 'drome can help. I'm more familiar with Mueller's activities with JG3, as my uncle was also with his staffel in France.

knusel 4th August 2022 19:50

Re: Alfred Lindenberger - 28 September 1944
 
Good evening Vince,

that's cool.

I've made a list of those who scored in both World Wars and compiled how the different sources agree or disagree. I also determined the age of the pilots, and the year of the first and last kill. The list includes:
  • Theodor Osterkamp
  • Harry von Bülow-Bothkamp
  • Marcel Claude Haegelen
  • Alfred Lindenberger
  • Erich Mix
  • Marius Ambrogi
  • Gerhard Hubrich
  • Alexander von Winterfeldt
  • Lionel de Marmier
  • Alfred Müller
  • Albrecht Ochs
  • Friedrich Vollbracht
Alfred Helm did not score in WW1, did he ?

Cheers,

Michael

VtwinVince 5th August 2022 19:14

Re: Alfred Lindenberger - 28 September 1944
 
According to my list, Major Helm had three claims in WW1. Interestingly, I have Mueller with two claims in WW1.


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