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edNorth 29th April 2017 20:15

Re: Heinkel He177 Eger-Cheb Production
 
Yes, ArB was indeed main assembly for He 177s (in numbers assembled). Allied Air Recon photos confirm the type there dispersed (images below are smaller than I saw). But as Arado FW originally comes from Rostock-Warnemunde there might be confusion there. Main thing is that ArB was ordered out of Ju 88 (wings) program into He 177s in 1942.

LFP only list assembly locations, not "actual production sites" (apologies for stressing that Production is not same as Production, term tends be used for assembly sites as well) . There is still yet to make a book that covers this correctly.

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arado_Flugzeugwerke
http://www.8thafhs.com/maps.php?lat=...et_notes=Arado

Denniss 29th April 2017 22:54

Re: Heinkel He177 Eger-Cheb Production
 
RWE and FWE should be Reparaturwerk/Flugzeugwerk Eger (AFAIR former Letov factory)
EHF/Lbg. and GHF/Lbg. may be the same (typo in the latter?)

The production numbers at german wiki differ from Seaplanes numbers, they also separate non-Kehl A-3 into "alter" and "neuer Bauzustand", the latter is, from my understanding, the lengthened fuselage and forward-moved engines.

Was there a Heinkel facility in LeBourget ?

edNorth 30th April 2017 00:55

Re: Heinkel He177 Eger-Cheb Production
 
He 277 IIRC

Tom Willis 20th November 2018 18:12

Re: Heinkel He177 Eger-Cheb Production
 
As far as I know the Eger-Cheb facility only re-built older air-frames. The new W/Nr. in the 770000 seems to have been adopted and in at least one case the old W/Nr. was added also. I have seen an old photo of a rear fuselage at Eger Flugzeugwerke where the old W/Nr.5041 was written below the new one 770002. Sorry cannot find this or the the source of the publication.

schwarze-man 21st November 2018 00:06

Re: Heinkel He177 Eger-Cheb Production
 
Interestingly, my data shows over 7,300 DB610 engines built. That was quite an expensive project, with limited success.

OAP

EduardosNormalos 21st November 2018 22:30

Re: Heinkel He177 Eger-Cheb Production
 
Schwarze-man: do you happen to know the annual split of DB610's produced by DB Genschagen? The other producer was Bussing, and I have the Bussing figures, but have never seen the DB production split.

Thanks and best regards,
Juha

edwest2 21st November 2018 23:38

Re: Heinkel He177 Eger-Cheb Production
 
Is this book useful and accurate?


http://www.christian-schmidt.com/pro...oducts_id=2585

schwarze-man 22nd November 2018 00:15

Re: Heinkel He177 Eger-Cheb Production
 
Hi Juha,
The figures I have, from the DB records copied by BIOS after the war:
Genshagen DB610 production: 1942-1,088. 1943-1,734. 1944-2,188.
Cheers
SM

EduardosNormalos 25th November 2018 13:22

Re: Heinkel He177 Eger-Cheb Production
 
Hi Schwarze,

And thanks a lot!

So, the total DB610 output would be as follows:

Year-DBGen-Bussing-Total
1942-1088-241-1329
1943-1734-425-2159
1944-2188-445-2633
Total-5010-1111-6121

This would be good for ~3000 He177's (without reservation for any spares), and for over 2000 a/c with 1/3rd reservation for spares. At least for me, this seems to be somewhat too much.

As for the Bussing numbers, they come from one of the USSBS -reports and are for the amount of coupled DB605-units (that is DB610-units). I wonder if the BIOS-report counts are for the DB605's allocated for the DB610 -units, and thus should be actually divided by two?
That would give roughly 3000 engines, which would be good for roughly 1000 a/c (which was the amount of DB610-engined A-3's and A-5's) with 1/3rd reservation for spares. Any thoughts on this?

Cheers,
Juha

RT 25th November 2018 14:31

Re: Heinkel He177 Eger-Cheb Production
 
A bit less than 400 pcs He177 hv been delivered by end of 1943, nd planned till 06-46 are 2500 more pcs
By june 44, a bit more than 1000 hv been delivered nd only 137 pcs are still to be del. f. the year end.
All material hv been prepared for well before ...

Rémi


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