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Nick Beale 10th February 2018 18:52

Re: Loss Ju88 C-4 R4+NK W.Nr. 0385 of 2./NJG2 at München-Riem airfield on 28 September 1941?
 
I eventually came round to translating »Bruch« as the old RAF slang term "prang" which covered just about any degree of damage.

Theo Boiten 10th February 2018 19:40

Re: Loss Ju88 C-4 R4+NK W.Nr. 0385 of 2./NJG2 at München-Riem airfield on 28 September 1941?
 
Gentlemen -thanks a lot for your useful feedback. The numerals 03(.)5 are clearly decipherable in the photo, the third numeral definitely is not a 5. I believed now that the third numeral is a 6 -which identifies the a/c as the one identified by Gerhard. Was W.Nr. 0365 definitely an A-4? The Verlustmeldung for this a.c on 31.5.42 only states '30% damaged' -was the Ju88 written off strength as a result?

BTW; the photo will be published in one of the upcoming vols in the NCA series sometime towards the end of this year, covering the Fernnachtjagd operations over Britain in 1940-41.

Cheers, Theo

Rottler 10th February 2018 20:51

Re: Loss Ju88 C-4 R4+NK W.Nr. 0385 of 2./NJG2 at München-Riem airfield on 28 September 1941?
 
Hi Theo,

Gen.Qu. loss report from 17 June 1942 No. 13:
31.5. I./NJG 2 H, category 23: beschädigt bei Ausbildungs- und sonstigem Flug ohne Feindauftrag (= damaged without enemy action on a non-operational flight) Ort: Fl.Pl. Castelli Ursache: Bruchlandung
Ju 88 A-4 365 30% Er (= Ersatz erforderlich/need for a replacement aircraft).

Regards
Leo

edNorth 10th February 2018 20:58

Re: Loss Ju88 C-4 R4+NK W.Nr. 0385 of 2./NJG2 at München-Riem airfield on 28 September 1941?
 
Ha, totally confused now. And who was talking of Ju 88 A-4 (C-4 was basically A-5 F, ie Zerstörer conversion with recce capability). Besides photo has traces of White (MTO) band applied under K, so how this connects to UK operations is beyond my comprehension? I have seen this eBay photo and its saved under 0559.

Theo Boiten 10th February 2018 21:07

Re: Loss Ju88 C-4 R4+NK W.Nr. 0385 of 2./NJG2 at München-Riem airfield on 28 September 1941?
 
Thanks Leo for these interesting additional details.

Cheers, Theo

Theo Boiten 10th February 2018 21:24

Re: Loss Ju88 C-4 R4+NK W.Nr. 0385 of 2./NJG2 at München-Riem airfield on 28 September 1941?
 
No need to be confused Ed -the W.Nr. of the Ju88 in question is definitely not 0559, I've a high res scan of the original.

Cheers, Theo

edNorth 10th February 2018 21:28

Re: Loss Ju88 C-4 R4+NK W.Nr. 0385 of 2./NJG2 at München-Riem airfield on 28 September 1941?
 
I see, you ignore the White band then?

Theo Boiten 10th February 2018 22:31

Re: Loss Ju88 C-4 R4+NK W.Nr. 0385 of 2./NJG2 at München-Riem airfield on 28 September 1941?
 
No (traces of) a white band visible in the photo that I have ..

Marcel Hogenhuis 11th February 2018 10:29

Re: Loss Ju88 C-4 R4+NK W.Nr. 0385 of 2./NJG2 at München-Riem airfield on 28 September 1941?
 
Hello Theo,

From my database:
0305 > no entries
0315 > no entries
0325 > no entries
0335 > 4./NJG 2 (R4+AM), 13/14 June 1941, lost near Kings Lynn (UK), 3 KIA
0345 > 4./NJG 2 (R4+BM), 17/18 April 1941, ZO Tynemouth (UK), 3 KIA
0355 > Erg.St./NJG 2, 26/27 June 1942, FlH.Venlo, crashlanded, 15%
0365 > I./NJG 2, 31 May 1942, FlH.Kastelli, crashlanded, 30%
0375 > I./NJG 2, 2 March 1941, FlH.Gilze-Rijen, crashlanded, 15%
> I./NJG 2, 13 August 1941, FlH.Gilze-Rijen, damaged taxiing, 40%
> 9./NJG 2, 9 July 1942, FlH.Greifswald, crashlanded, 25%
0385 > III./KG 30, Stkz. FD+HT, 30 December 1942, near Schiaramonte, crashed, 4 KIA, 100%
0395 > no entries

All the best, Marcel

Theo Boiten 11th February 2018 11:00

Re: Loss Ju88 C-4 R4+NK W.Nr. 0385 of 2./NJG2 at München-Riem airfield on 28 September 1941?
 
Hi Marcel,

Thanks for sharing these details from your database, much appreciated!

Cheers, Theo


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