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knusel 20th February 2022 13:14

Re: Günther Bertram
 
Hi guys,

I share the interest of Johannes in Günther Bertram.
Unfortunately, his family name is also a given name, which makes it difficult to read up on him.
He was born in 1920 like the mathematician of the same name, but on a different date.

Cheers,

Michael

FalkeEins 5th May 2022 13:59

Re: Günther Bertram
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Johannes (Post 316639)

Also out of curiosity, as all the claims are bombers, what was the BF's position/location?

From his accounts I'd have thought a few of his claims would be U2 and R5 biplanes supplying partisan groups located behind the front lines - one of the reasons for using the slow He 111 (and Fw 189).

knusel 5th May 2022 20:34

Re: Günther Bertram
 
Good evening FalkeEins,

in my Günther Bertram claim list I find only two R-5's and no U-2's.
However, this list might lack one claim in the He 111.

Cheers,

Michael

FalkeEins 6th May 2022 18:11

Re: Günther Bertram
 
Hello Michael

..thanks. Going back to your post #7 Bertram himself wrote; " my last and 35th victory ...."

knusel 7th May 2022 15:50

Re: Günther Bertram
 
Good afternoon FalkeEins,

yes that excludes this conjecture. Thank you.
Did he mean his Lancaster kill on 10/11Apr1945 when he wrote that ?

Have a good weekend,

Michael

FalkeEins 7th May 2022 17:13

Re: Günther Bertram
 
thanks ...yes he did.

knusel 7th May 2022 18:20

Re: Günther Bertram
 
So far I could only identify 30 of his 35 kills:
15,3.43 R-5
19,3.43 R-5
10,4.43 PS-84
11,4.43 Ant-6
11,4.43 Ant-6
14,4.43 PS-84
3,5.43 B-25
3,5.43 PS-84
9,5.43 Ant-6
20,6.43 Il-4
24,6.43 PS-84
24,6.43 Ant-6
20,7.43 Boston
8,5.44 Boston
8,5.44 PS-84
8,5.44 PS-84
9,5.44 PS-84
29,6.44 Il-4
1,7.44 PS-84
9,7.44 DB-3
14,7.44 PS-84
14,7.44 PS-84
20,7.44 Boston
24,8.44 Il-4
24,8.44 Boston
20,9.44 DB-3
20/21.12.44 Il-4
20/21.12.44 Il-4
20/21.12.44 Il-4
10/11.4.45 Lancaster

I'll keep at searching for the missing five...

knusel 10th September 2023 11:20

Re: Günther Bertram
 
...the research of Johannes Matthews and Theo Boiten has revealed two more:
29,6.43 R-5
26,2,44 DB-3
Still only three missing.
Is Günther Bertram still alive?

knusel 12th October 2023 11:06

Re: Günther Bertram
 
I find Bertram's given name sometimes spelled a "Günther" and sometimes as "Günter". which is correct ?


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