Re: Dornier Do 217 M, werknummer 3867
 

Adriano

To continue with what Griehl states, he lists the M production to appx 485 aircraft including the prototype.
At the same time he gives WNr blocks as follows:
2801 - 2901
6001 - 6400
56001- 56200
322701-326300
722701-722800

It is easy to see they are either wrong or there must be huge black out gaps in there, somewhere.

Cheers
Stig

Re: Dornier Do 217 M, werknummer 3867
 

The 6001 to 6400 (not certain that these went that high?) but as far as I understand should be listed as 56.001 to 56.200. So could No 67 be 56.067?

Re: Dornier Do 217 M, werknummer 3867
 

I see Tom

What you are saying is that Griehl duplicated one batch by not giving them their correct WNr?

Interesting!

In such a case, the two batches 322xxx and 722xxx ranges also look a bit suspect, with only an initial 3 or 7 keeping them apart.

Cheers
Stig

Re: Dornier Do 217 M, werknummer 3867
 

That's my table of the Do 217M production, put together from losses, test flights and photos:

M V1 1230
M-0 1241 -1245

M-1 40701 -40795
M-1 47100 -47106
M-1 56001 -56196

M-1 326200 -326360
M-1 326396 -326475

M-1 722727 -722754
M-1 722842 -722899
M-1 722926 -722990
M-1 723015 -723037
M-11 723038 -723180

Two similar decorated ones as that plane from the photo were WNr.56057 lost by 9./KG 2 on 12.07.43 and WNr. 56054 lost by 8./KG 2 on 16.08.43. The "67" was to my opinion WNr. 56067 operated by 9./KG 2 (due to the small yellow spinner tip) during spring and summer 1943. On 28.08.43 it was taken over by 12./KG 2 and became lost by that unit as U5+DW on 16.04.44.

Re: Dornier Do 217 M, werknummer 3867
 

Wow Gerhard

Hats off to that list!! It sure updates what Griehl wrote many years ago.
Looks like I was correct being suspicious about the 322xxx range.
Also well done, Tom, you also got it right.

Thanks again Gerhard!! :)

Cheers
Stig

Re: Dornier Do 217 M, werknummer 3867
 

Hi Gerhard,
Thank you for the informative listing.
Am I correct that about forty of the M-1s within the 40701 to 40795 range were converted to Do 217 K-3s?
Respectfully,
Steve Sheflin

Re: Dornier Do 217 M, werknummer 3867
 

Gents,

This photo looked familiar to me and going through my files I found four other photos of this Do 217 M-1 machine and event. The aircraft’s V.-kenn. – U5+ge.DW – and last two digits of the Werknummer – ‘67’ – are clearly visible, thus matching Gerhard’s identification of it being WNr.56067 of 12./KG 2.

I do not have my copy of U. Balke's book at hand to determine the date of the 1000 flights ceremony. I tried reducing the size of the images to a size acceptable for inclusion here, but in doing so their resolution was compromised. If anyone want's copies - (they being from a long-expired Ebay sale), please let me know.

Gerhard, thanks for sharing your research!

Cheers,

David

Re: Dornier Do 217 M, werknummer 3867
 

Steve,

the Do 217K-3 were new build aircraft with numbers 4701 to 4752.

Re: Dornier Do 217 M, werknummer 3867
 

Dear Gerhard, Steve, David, Stig and all

Firstly sorry for the long delay. Weekends are pretty busy with a kid of 3 and I rarely do have time to sit and write alone.

Your matching of the werknummer is amazing. Do have no words to express my gratitude. This is a topic (Dornier Do 217) and subject I have no references at home (apart a book about KG 100).

Gerhard, would you have the crew names of U5+DW lost on 16th April 1944? I will try to match the RAF possible claim.

DAVID: I would like to have a look at the pictures you mentioned about either the 1,000 Flight or the U5+DW mentioned. Would you be able to share them here: baumgartner_asv@yahoo.com.br

AGAIN I am in debt with you all who enlighted me with a knowledge and DATA I was not familiar or unable to obtain. My gratitude.

Adriano S. Baumgartner, ASV 00.344

Re: Dornier Do 217 M, werknummer 3867
 

It would appear U5+DW crashed 33 km NE of Melun due to an accident on a training flight; Fw Friedrich Koch, Fw Alois Hochstadter, Uffz Helmut Paul & Gefr Heinz Schlunke all killed