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Bruce Lander 10th July 2019 21:07

Re: A-36 with the RAF
 
Did 14 Squadron borrow some A-36's and score the following victories :-
30/5/43 F/O.Crawford (Mustang 41-37364) Fiat G12 of 605a Sq
F/Sgt Cambbell ( Mustang 41-47414)

31/5/43 F/L D.Blair Fiat RS 14 of 170 Sq
P/O J.K.K.Gildner

07/6/43 F/L D.Blair Cant Z506B of 188 Sq
P/O J.K.K.Gildner

Question ; were these Mustang as used by RAF Army Co op Squadrons or A-36's

Bruce Lander

Dan History 10th July 2019 21:17

Re: A-36 with the RAF
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bruce Lander (Post 271601)
Did 14 Squadron borrow some A-36's and score the following victories :-
30/5/43 F/O.Crawford (Mustang 41-37364) Fiat G12 of 605a Sq
F/Sgt Cambbell ( Mustang 41-47414

Bruce, page 19 of the fourth volume of the Mediterranean Air War series reports the 14 Squadron Mustangs were P-51As, later serving with the American 111th TRS as F-6As.

You have a PM.

Kind regards,

Dan

Kutscha 10th July 2019 23:07

Re: A-36 with the RAF
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bruce Lander (Post 271601)
Did 14 Squadron borrow some A-36's and score the following victories :-
30/5/43 F/O.Crawford (Mustang 41-37364) Fiat G12 of 605a Sq
F/Sgt Cambbell ( Mustang 41-47414)

31/5/43 F/L D.Blair Fiat RS 14 of 170 Sq
P/O J.K.K.Gildner

07/6/43 F/L D.Blair Cant Z506B of 188 Sq
P/O J.K.K.Gildner

Question ; were these Mustang as used by RAF Army Co op Squadrons or A-36's

Bruce Lander

Serial numbers of the A-36 were 42-83663/84162.

Col Bruggy 11th July 2019 03:08

Re: A-36 with the RAF
 
Hello,

Re: No.14 Sqn RAF Mustangs:

In May 1943 a Flight of six American P51 [sic] Mustang fighters were attached to the Squadron for an operational trial. These aircraft were flown by RAF pilots from 32 Squadron led by Flt Lt (Douglas) Blair to determine the suitability of the Mustang for Coastal reconnaissance. Flt Lt Blair and Flt Sgt C P Ashworth* carried out the first operational Mustang sortie on 29 May (1943), and their first aerial success came the next day when Fg Off H A Crawford** and Flt Sgt D Campbell shot down a Ju 52 off the eastern coast of Sardinia. other air-to-air successes included a Fiat RS14 floatplane which was downed the next day by Fg Off J K K Gildner and another RS14 shot down in the Bay of Ostriano by Flt Lt Blair on 7 June. The Mustangs flew reconnaissance sorties around the Sardinian coast throughout late May and early June, generally operating in pairs. However, overall the experiment was not a success; the Mustang pilots resented their unglamourous role and the Marauder crews resented the flamboyant fighter pilots. The unhappy marriage was dissolved in mid-June and the Mustangs were returned to the USAAF.

P-51-2 Mustang - 137364 - Date on: 28 Apr 1943 - Date off: 16 Jun 1943
P-51-2 Mustang - 137368 - Date on: 17 May 1943 - Date off: 16 Jun 1943
P-51-2 Mustang - 137369 - Date on: 29 Apr 1943 - Date off: 16 Jun 1943
P-51-2 Mustang - 137370 - Date on: 13 May 1943 - Date off: 16 Jun 1943
P-51-2 Mustang - 137414 - Date on: 28 Apr 1943 - Date off: 16 Jun 1943
P-51-2 Mustang - 137429 - Date on: 06 May 1943 - Date off: 16 Jun 1943

(P-51-2 ???)

* NZ413367 F/Sgt Corran Perry ASHWORTH RNZAF.
** J15545 F/O Harvey Alexander Crawford RCAF
See:
Winged Crusaders - The Exploits of 14 Squadron RFC & RAF 1915-1945
Napier,Michael.
Barnsley:Pen & Sword Aviation,2012.
pp.262-3 & 310

Col.

Stig Jarlevik 11th July 2019 11:50

Re: A-36 with the RAF
 
Thanks Col

Very interesting information!!

Cheers
Stig

Col Ford 11th July 2019 13:32

Re: A-36 with the RAF
 
The Mustangs used by No.14 Squadron RAF were the NA-91, which was the P-51 - no suffix, US equivalent to the RAF Mustang Mk.IA. The 4 x 20mm Hispano cannon armament version. Again, was a "in theatre loan" from the USAAF to the RAF.

Alfred.MONZAT 11th July 2019 14:43

Re: A-36 with the RAF
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Col Bruggy (Post 271609)
P-51-2 ???

This article explain there was two different designations: http://www.crazyhorseap.be/Mustangs/...IA/P-51_01.htm

P-51-1 and P-51-2 for the Mustang IA taken over by the AAF, with only one (41-37320/FD418) receiving the first designation. The difference between the two remains unknow to me.


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