Re: Bf 109 V25
 

Uh oh....


That sounds not good. More confusion then before. :) Thank you very much for your replies. Are there any informations about the type of test's are made with the planes?


E V25 1930 D-IVKC NB+NG 09.39


That is helpful, because my guess was going in that direction for this plane. To bad the Stammkennzeichen is not full visible...
https://me109.info/web.php?a=e&l=en&n=ua&f=634


Can we be sure that the airfames did exist twice with the same V-number? Can it be, that the heavy modified airframes just become new WNr.'s?
Are informations known about the fates of the "first" airframes?


And btw, there is a special publication on the book market about the V-planes. I don't got it, because I'm not sure to get any new informations from it.
https://www.amazon.de/Messerschmitt-.../dp/3866191391
"Dieses Buch wird einiges, was Sie glauben von der Bf 109 zu wissen, auf den Kopf stellen."


Also the twice V number fact/theory?



Thank you all!


David

Re: Bf 109 V25
 

The NB+NG was used by JFS 2 in Magdeburg-Süd (documented 12/41 - 06/42). In the FB Friedmann is an interesting annotation: 10.06.1942 -- "Umschulung Bf 109V".

Re: Bf 109 V25
 

Aaaah
And what is that?
Old auction.

Re: Bf 109 V25
 

That one posted by Falcon was in JFS2 too during the same period (June 42)
https://me109.info/web.php?a=e&l=en&n=ua&f=634

....
And the following one too! old auction

Re: Bf 109 V25
 

That is the V22 (#1) WNr. 1800 (former D-IRRQ)
Only the NB+NH is not yet confirmed by documents, or? Just this photo.

Re: Bf 109 V25
 

Frank

Thank's for very interesting photos!!

David

Me being the underdog here with minor Bf 109 knowledge compared with all of you, I still find Gerhard's theory more plausible, so yes two different aircraft carrying the same V numbers.

Otherwise you need to explain why (after a substantial rebuild without any new WNr) they all of a sudden decided at some point, now we are giving these aircraft a new WNr. From your own claims we can see that in 1942 WNr 1930 is still not fully updated to F-standard. So what modifications did Messerschmitt (or sub-contractor) do to finally make a new WNr necessary?

Rasmussen
If you still follow this thread, can you please - using your Flugbücher - give us dates to your previous input?

I have to confess I find this thread very, very interesting so thanks everyone for taking part.:)

Cheers
Stig

Re: Bf 109 V25
 

Your picture doesn't show the "V25, VK+AC" ... have a look under the wing - there is an "N".

The NB+NH I have in 06 - 07/42 in JFS 2 too (as "V22" in flight log Fritz Müller) --- so probably both planes were in the same flight school at the same time.

Re: Bf 109 V25
 

Yes, it is the V22 WNr. 1800. It got the special spinner air intake for the circle oil cooler system.

Re: Bf 109 V25
 

NB+NG at Erpr.Stelle Tarnewitz, in oct.40, laut log from Pfister

Rémi

Re: Bf 109 V25
 

Ah yes, don't take my own caption for good. They have been temporary for years ... And still are ;)