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ArtieBob 28th August 2006 13:30

Re: Luftwaffe im Focus Special #2
 
IMHO, the A-6/U designation is in most cases incorrect. I have a pretty good list of the A-6 W.Nrs. and some of the most infamously identified "A-6/U"s do not fall in these groups and are actually much later production A-4s. The errors probably originate in the similarity in the appearance of the "bump" fairings for the FuG 200 antenna mountings to those for the A-6 for the cable cutter. I also have been doing a very detailed analysis of W.Nrs. and in certain portions of the Gen.Qu.6.Abt. loss lists, there are a very high percentage of errors, especially for the Ju 88.

Best regards,

Artie Bob

hedgehog6 28th August 2006 14:22

Re: Luftwaffe im Focus Special #2
 
Other than the data plate, what would then be the difference between an A-6/U and an A-4 with the gondola removed and FuG200 added?

JYoung 8th September 2006 16:40

Re: Luftwaffe im Focus Special #2
 
Hi! at last I get it.
Photo11/pp.8-9, Ju88 C-6 W7+D?. I have a question about FuG 212 C-1. Its upper right antenna is canted 45deg. Was it sabotaged, or an officially produced variation?

Hohentwiel 8th September 2006 17:16

Re: Luftwaffe im Focus Special #2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JYoung
Photo11/pp.8-9, Ju88 C-6 W7+D?. I have a question about FuG 212 C-1.
Its upper right antenna is canted 45deg.
Was it sabotaged, or an officially produced variation?

Are you sure with W7+D_ ? Why do you think, it's an a/c of NJG 100?

Von Alles 8th September 2006 18:56

Re: Luftwaffe im Focus Special #2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hedgehog6
Other than the data plate, what would then be the difference between an A-6/U and an A-4 with the gondola removed and FuG200 added?

The A-6 was built from a A-5 model.
The A-4 had different cowlings and propellers (Jumo 211J).

Von Alles

George Hopp 8th September 2006 23:12

Re: Luftwaffe im Focus Special #2
 
Quote:

Photo11/pp.8-9, Ju88 C-6 W7+D?. I have a question about FuG 212 C-1. Its upper right antenna is canted 45deg. Was it sabotaged, or an officially produced variation?
No, Hohentwiel, the antenna must have been sabotaged because it was not an official modification. Good eyes though, because until you pointed it out I hadn't noticed it .

Hohentwiel 9th September 2006 00:26

Re: Luftwaffe im Focus Special #2
 
Hi George,

my eyes weren't as good as JYoung's eyes ;-) but thanks for your
information! Maybe GIs or civilians brake the antenna. The question
about this photo is the small yellow fuselage band. JYoung told us
something about the code W7+D_. It would be very interesting if this
a/c was from NJG 100. Maybe this small band was a special marking
practice of this unit for a while? Also the camouflage is very interesting
too. Does anybody know more similar Ju 88 G?

Regards,
Sven.

JYoung 9th September 2006 02:13

Re: Luftwaffe im Focus Special #2
 
Hi, Hohentwiel,
[quote=Hohentwiel] JYoung told us something about the code W7+D_.


I’m sorry because I have no conclusive evidence, but the fuselage code seems to be so for me.


Hi, George, thank you for your help and praise.

Best regards.
JY

GrahamB 9th September 2006 03:31

Re: Luftwaffe im Focus Special #2
 
Hi,

while I've not seen the latest 'Im Focus Special', the aircraft sounds like two that are shown in Manfred Griehl's 'Junkers Ju 88 - Star of the Luftwaffe', page79 (I think the bottom photo of an aircraft with the early unbalanced rudder shows a S/T style beetle-nose). Manfred identifies these as 'D' variants. Also, according to the author (page 34), the "A-6/U" designation did not officially exist (probably like the G6a, G6b, G6c identifiers), and the ex A-6 'Kuto-Nase' aircraft were converted to A-5 status (later A-4) or developed into the anti-shipping "A6/U" that were actually redesignated A-7. This number also referred to a trainer version.

Cheers

Graham

George Hopp 9th September 2006 06:54

Re: Luftwaffe im Focus Special #2
 
Sorry JY, I should have followed the quote back to its source. Yes, good eyes.

A small point. I'm not altogether certain that the radar in that Ju 88C is an FuG 212. Contrary to what most sources report, the FuG 212 was only built in small numbers, and so most of the a/c with that small antenna set were hooked up to the FuG 202 radar. In addition, the Ju 88R that defected to the UK in mid-1943 had FuG 202 radar. But, since this was all of 60+ years ago, does does anyone really care any more?


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