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John Vasco 3rd July 2021 21:40

Re: 1/JG27 losses on 8 August 1940
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by robert (Post 307634)
Zirkenbach!!!

Yeah, we know it's Zirkenbach.
How about you answer my question in post #6.
After all, it is a full two years since it was last posed...

Nick Beale 4th July 2021 20:24

Re: 1/JG27 losses on 8 August 1940
 
Now that I've had a chance to look it up, Britain on 8 August 1940 was on BST (GMT+1) and Germany was on Central European Summer Time (GMT+2).

John Vasco 4th July 2021 20:30

Re: 1/JG27 losses on 8 August 1940
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick Beale (Post 307675)
Now that I've had a chance to look it up, Britain on 8 August 1940 was on BST (GMT+1) and Germany was on Central European Summer Time (GMT+2).

So what Peter Cook posted in post #3 is correct then, Nick?

Nick Beale 4th July 2021 21:18

Re: 1/JG27 losses on 8 August 1940
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by John Vasco (Post 307676)
So what Peter Cook posted in post #3 is correct then, Nick?

Not quite: the Germans weren't on normal Central European Time but on the Summer version, so Peter was right about there being a one-hour difference but not about CET per se.

Chris Goss 5th July 2021 17:11

Re: 1/JG27 losses on 8 August 1940
 
Another way to try and work out times were claims with I Gruppe claiming at 1005, 1010, 1345 and 1355 hrs. II Gruppe at 1725 hrs and III Gruppe at 1005, 1325 (2), 1328, 1330, 1720 (2) and 1730 hrs

Peter Cook 5th July 2021 21:06

Re: 1/JG27 losses on 8 August 1940
 
Thanks Chris,
I have these claim times, but the losses are somewhat ambiguous, as I said Parry has Zirkenbach and Bothfeld of I Gruppe killed at approximately 10.15 (09.15 BST), Weal has during the later raid 13.00-13.50 (12.00-12.50 BST). There were further JG 27 losses in the third attack on Peewit 17.00-1745 (16.00-16.45 BST), but these were II and III Gruppe.

Peter

Chris Goss 5th July 2021 23:39

Re: 1/JG27 losses on 8 August 1940
 
From a translated document, it states:


1005 hrs-first attack; 2 aircrfat shot down

1245 hrs 2nd attack; 2 aircrfat missing

1700 hrs 3rd attack; 10 aircrfat shot down

Peter Cook 6th July 2021 11:06

Re: 1/JG27 losses on 8 August 1940
 
Thanks Chris,

But still no closer to who and when, perhaps this will be resolved for Zirkenbach and Bothfeld when Robert publishes his findings.

Peter

John Vasco 7th July 2021 20:16

Re: 1/JG27 losses on 8 August 1940
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter Cook (Post 307717)
Thanks Chris,

But still no closer to who and when, perhaps this will be resolved for Zirkenbach and Bothfeld when Robert publishes his findings.

Peter

Don't hold yer breath, mate...


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