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Re: Don Bend book 1942
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Good, that I am wrong about combat between Hungarian fighters and Soviet Hurricanens. I do not deeply digg out this subject (mostly Soviet side) so it is possible, why not BTW in which period these combat did took place? 235. IAD had used Hurricanes between beginning of June 1942 to 30 VIII 42, the last unit flying on Hurricane was 436. IAP and this is most probably one, which could fight versus Hungarians. Its pilot had also claimed the most victories climed on "Hurritones" - Soviet nickname for Hurricanes. Yes I know that Ił-2 was also captured then, if I am right I have a photo of it in my colection, but Hungrians had also captured at least one Il-2 in 1941 and this was presented in Budapest "fest"/fair/? in the summer 1941. This Ił-2 from 1942 was transported to Hungary too? BTW yes LaGG-3 was also captured on railway station Novyj Oskol (if I am right), but thses 3 planes (2 Hurri + 1 LaGG-3) had severe combat damages and were just transported back to workshop. Despite these 3 figters there were at last one mre Hurricane MK IIC with 4 Brithish 20 mm cannons - there is a photo of it, what about this plane? Regards mw PS Which language will be printed your book about aces? |
Re: Don Bend book 1942
Mirek,
there were not just one engagements between the Hurricanes and Hungarians (and not just against the Hungarian fighters but recces as well) BTW you can find more info about these engagements from Soviet (TSAMO) sources, than Hungarians (Hungarian sources never mentioned Hurricanes, because the crews/pilots generally wrongly identifyed the type - the same happened from Soviet side as well) Aces book is Hungarian, of course (will be an English edition as well in the future for sure) |
Re: Don Bend book 1942
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There is an interesting inscription just behind the cockpit, reading 'Empire Quill' (in Latin characters). |
Ree: Hurricane MK II C
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yes this is this case, when Hungarian is standing in the front of Hurricane II C, which is made in UK. Photo was made in these period with quite "strange" version of British Hurricane MK IIC (which in more quantity would come to Russia next year). Soviet did begin to rearme most of their Mk IIA (8x7,7), Mk IIB (12x7,7) on his own weapons (2x12, +2x20 mm or on the begining even 4x20 mm) since begining 1942. So the 436. IAP of 235.IAD, which fought on Don bend in the summer of 1942 had come to the front armed with Soviet orygin/armed Hurricanes (2x12,7+2x20 mm). This was regiment, which fought the longest period from the whole Soviet Hurricane division which was annihilated then mostly by German fighters. The problem with Tsamo document is that, you should came there to read them and also have infor from Hungarian side because Soviet sources written most of all had flown over there (Don Bend ) as a Messerschmitts or Fw 190, ect. so they did not correctly idetifeied enemy side. BTW, Csaba how did you get documents form Tsamo? Regards Mirek W |
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It is out now, the period is the entire war (but the most detailed is the 1. Field-Armoured Division in 1942/43, unpublished even in Hungary) The first chapter is the 1. Field Armoured Division in 1942/43, next is a general chapter about the armoured units in the entire war (from 1939 till 1945), then the industry and vehicles. IIRC it contains approx 70 archive photos (most of them unpublished) and many colour ones as well regarding the survived AFV's (in Hungary, Serbia and Russia) |
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