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James A Pratt III 16th June 2022 20:09

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Again I can't see or download the above. Is anyone else having this problem? I made a post on this site about Soviet Fugas minesweepers and the dates ect when they were sunk or damaged by Axis aircraft. Some one else added some other dates. My info was from Warship magazine which has other articles on Soviet warships.

edwest2 16th June 2022 22:41

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Hi James,

You may find this book to be of interest.

https://www.usni.org/press/books/war...eets-1939-1945

Andrew Arthy 18th June 2022 04:20

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Originally Posted by James A Pratt III (Post 320409)
Again I can't see or download the above. Is anyone else having this problem? I made a post on this site about Soviet Fugas minesweepers and the dates ect when they were sunk or damaged by Axis aircraft. Some one else added some other dates. My info was from Warship magazine which has other articles on Soviet warships.

Hi James,

Apologies, I missed your initial post in this thread. Please send me your email address via private message, and I can send you a copy of the spreadsheet.

All the best,
Andrew A.
Air War Publications - www.airwarpublications.com/earticles.

James A Pratt III 21st June 2022 18:10

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Andrew here is my e mail:

jamesapratt3@yahoo.com

James A Pratt III 28th June 2022 18:23

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Ed will read the book one day

on the greatearforum.org
on the sailors,navies and the war at sea I made a post "Ships damaged, attacked and sunk by aircraft in WW I" for those interested

For WW II this is from the book "No Room For Mistakes" by Geirr H Haarr on Allied submarine ops 1939-40 I have some info for this subject:

1940
16 Jun HMS/M Porpoise most likely missed 2 Ar-196s from Scharnhorst
19 Hun HMS/M Clyde missed by AR-196 Gneisenau
25 Jul (not Jun) HMS/M Trinton missed Ar-196 from Hipper

4 may HMS/M Seal very slight damage He-115 KuFlGr 706

14 may Neth S/M O24 strafed by one German fighter off the Netherlands

5 Jul HMS/M Shark badly damaged later sinks Ar-196 1/196 LtnzS Gottschalk and Unt Manjok T3+LH

6 Jul destroyer HMS Fame damaged

20 Mar Neth trawler Protinus sunk He-111 KG 26 10 crew 2 die rest saved HMS/M Unity 25 Mar

22 jul HMS/M Narwhal sunk Do-17 1/KFlGr 606 Obltn Karl Muller with a little help from B-Dienst

Andrew Arthy 29th June 2022 01:16

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Hi James,

Thanks very much for those - we'll include the details in our next update.

Cheers,
Andrew A.
Air War Publications - www.airwarpublications.com/earticles

igorrB 29th June 2022 06:53

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Originally Posted by James A Pratt III (Post 320771)
1940
16 Jun HMS/M Porpoise most likely missed 2 Ar-196s from Scharnhorst

There was only one sortie from SCHARNHORST that day (Ar.196 "T3+BH" from 1./196, crew Ludwig/Reuter) to seek some sunken submarine in qu. 5697. Fly from 10.00 to 12.02 - no signs of sub was found. Second sortie of same machine was cancelled due bad weather. Source: KTB of Bordfliegerstaffel 1./196, NARA T-1022, roll 3359.
Equally nothing in SCHARNHORST's KTB. There we can found a statement, that
sub was sunk by GNEISENAU's airplane 16.6.40. Indeed, a plane started in 00.00 and downed 02.32 reports about sinking CLYDE-type sub in qu. 5659r, 22 miles north of Halten Light. Alas i don't know planes code and crew.
PS - 19.6.40 plane from GNEISENAU indeed attacked sub almost in same area and in same time (qu. 5697, Halten Bank), flight 00.00-02.15.

igorrB 29th June 2022 07:05

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Originally Posted by James A Pratt III (Post 320771)
1940
25 Jul (not Jun) HMS/M Trinton missed Ar-196 from Hipper

HIPPER marched from Trondheim beginning from 17.00. No starts for arados recorded for this date.

igorrB 29th June 2022 07:22

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Originally Posted by James A Pratt III (Post 320771)
22 jul HMS/M Narwhal sunk Do-17 1/KFlGr 606 Obltn Karl Muller with a little help from B-Dienst

There was no attack by 1./706 on subs 22.7.40.
Sub was claimed as destroyed only next day 23.7.40 in 14.55 by Do.17Z from 1./706 coded "7T+EH" with Lt.z.S Muller as Beobachter, in qu. 4856

Andrew Arthy 29th June 2022 14:09

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Hi Igor,

Thank you for providing those additions - I've made note of them.

Cheers,
Andrew A.
Air War Publications - www.airwarpublications.com/earticles


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