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Tony Kambic 20th February 2024 13:30

Re: Serial Number - Aircraft ID help!!!
 
I have the VDM document. This 9-11137.30 is listing for the He111 E, H-1, H-2, H-3 and P models. I didn't find it listed for any other aircraft.

In the document, the 30 follows a dot and not a slash.

Tony

Max Wünsche 20th February 2024 22:41

Re: Serial Number - Aircraft ID help!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony Kambic (Post 336444)
I have the VDM document. This 9-11137.30 is listing for the He111 E, H-1, H-2, H-3 and P models. I didn't find it listed for any other aircraft.

In the document, the 30 follows a dot and not a slash.

Tony


Amazing! Many thanks for this additional information.

It is just hard to grasp that such different sizes were used on the same aircraft type. Even with the images showing them in that other thread.

Cheers...

Max Wünsche 21st February 2024 13:16

Re: Serial Number - Aircraft ID help!!!
 
Incidentally, here is the data plate from the larger RED spinner.


https://i.postimg.cc/RqxnTgZG/thumbnail-IMG-2002-1.jpg

Tony Kambic 21st February 2024 13:41

Re: Serial Number - Aircraft ID help!!!
 
I will see if I can find this in the VDM documents.

Tony

Tony Kambic 21st February 2024 14:14

Re: Serial Number - Aircraft ID help!!!
 
And I made a mistake on my initial report. The 9-11137.30 fits on the He111 H3, H4, and H5, and the P models. Not on the E, H1 and H2.

The H3-H5 is fitted with a Jumo 211D

The P has a DB601A.

Sorry for the confusion. Had to review 3 separate documents ( 1939, 1941, 1944) and a single page were wrapped over two pages.

I will continue to review that other data plate number.

Tony

Tony Kambic 21st February 2024 16:56

Re: Serial Number - Aircraft ID help!!!
 
So far scans of all 3 documents (1939, 1941, 1944) have produced nothing for the red spinner data plate. A .30 certainly is attributed to spinners (Haube), but there is not a single one that begins with the '210'.

I've searched the documents for 24.30 and 210 and got nothing. The spinner was repainted and it appears that the data plate rivets are original, so it must have been masked when painting.

In the document and on the spinners of NASM Fw190, He219 and Bf109, the spinner data plate is next to the slot where the tool is placed to release the locking ring for removal of the spinner. I don't see the slot in the red spinner.

Is it possible to have some images of the inside of the spinner as well as the tool slot?

Regards,

Tony

harrison987 21st February 2024 19:10

Re: Serial Number - Aircraft ID help!!!
 
Flugzeugmuster
He111H-3 & He111H-5

Motormuster
Jumo 211 D

Luftschrauben gerat nr
9-11170 A

Flugel
9-11170.11
9-11170.13

Nabe
9-11081.26
9-11081.25

haube
9-11137.30


Mike

Max Wünsche 22nd February 2024 03:46

Re: Serial Number - Aircraft ID help!!!
 
Here is a pic of the release slot in relation to the position of the data plate, both external and internal views. You can see the rivets for the data plate on the internal pic.

Last pic is of course the overall pic of the internal's.

https://i.postimg.cc/G2Hwh6PM/thumbnail-IMG-2078.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/3rk4PRGG/thumbnail-IMG-2082.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/h4Qv2YFb/thumbnail-IMG-2084.jpg

Tony Kambic 22nd February 2024 05:15

Re: Serial Number - Aircraft ID help!!!
 
Thanks Max. I was looking at some images I have of the NASM Bf109G spinner and it made me realize that this red spinner is large, and similar. One difference is that there are flush rivets on the G that extend up to the joint on each side of a prop blade opening and they don't exist on the red spinner.

The VDM document I have only has data as far as the Bf109G. I thought maybe it could possibly be for a K but now the new image shows no hole large enough for a cannon.

What other aircraft would have a large spinner like the 109 and be a late war development, in light of a distinct higher Haube Nummer.

Tony

Revi16 22nd February 2024 10:09

Re: Serial Number - Aircraft ID help!!!
 
ME 210/410


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