Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum

Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum (http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/index.php)
-   Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces (http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/forumdisplay.php?f=8)
-   -   The Rise and Fall of the German Air Force (Air Ministry Pamphlet) (http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showthread.php?t=64810)

RodM 17th March 2024 09:54

Re: The Rise and Fall of the German Air Force (Air Ministry Pamphlet)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick Beale (Post 337063)
In some ways it still is but I wouldn't be surprised if compiling this document was just a job handed to some RAF desk people or civil servants and nobody thought the authors need be credited. It would quite possibly be seen as the work of a department rather than individuals.

What's REALLY interesting about The Rise and Fall of the German Air Force as a 1948 publication, is that it directly quotes (without quotation marks) paraphrased ULTRA intelligence, as now found in the DEFE 3 series at The National Archives.

British Air Ministry Phamphets never attributed authorship, other than sometimes the originating agency.

Andrey Kuznetsov 17th March 2024 10:51

Re: The Rise and Fall of the German Air Force (Air Ministry Pamphlet)
 
Hi Leon,

thank you! Nice info.
I also have two editions of this book - 2001 and (in Russian) 2006.

Best regards,
Andrey

Andrey Kuznetsov 17th March 2024 10:58

Re: The Rise and Fall of the German Air Force (Air Ministry Pamphlet)
 
Hello Rod,

Quote:

Originally Posted by RodM (Post 337094)
What's REALLY interesting about The Rise and Fall of the German Air Force as a 1948 publication, is that it directly quotes (without quotation marks) paraphrased ULTRA intelligence.

While it is clear upon reading that Ultra was used, the presence of direct quotes is surprising.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RodM (Post 337094)
British Air Ministry Phamphets never attributed authorship, other than sometimes the originating agency

Who was the head of AHB in 1947-48?

Best regards,
Andrey

RodM 17th March 2024 11:24

Re: The Rise and Fall of the German Air Force (Air Ministry Pamphlet)
 
Hi Andrey,

if you look at the cover of the original 1948 publication, it was issued by the Assistant Chief of Air Staff (Intelligence) of the Air Ministry.

The then ACAS(I) wrote the foreword to the book - Air Vice-Marshall Sir Thomas Elmhirst, KBE, CB, AFC.

Andrey Kuznetsov 17th March 2024 12:30

Re: The Rise and Fall of the German Air Force (Air Ministry Pamphlet)
 
Thank you, Rod!


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 23:32.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004 - 2018, 12oclockhigh.net