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pvanroy 28th July 2024 23:50

Re: Me109 training unit identification
 
JG 108 spent its entire existence in Austria, and was gradually disbanded between February and April 1945. Apart from its primary training duties, JG 108 also had an Einsatzschwarm tasked with defense of the industry in the greater Vienna area. The unit used a variety of aircraft, including various subtypes of the Messerschmitt Bf 109 and Focke-Wulf Fw 190, Fiat CR.42, Fiat G.50, Macchi C.200, Macchi C.202 and Siebel Si 204, among others. According to Carlsen & Meyer (2000), the final disposition of the unit was as follows:

- Stab/JG 108: Münchendorf, disbanded 16 April 1945
- I./JG 108: Bad Vöslau, disbanded 25 March 1945
- 1./JG 108: Bad Vöslau, disbanded 25 March 1945
- 2./JG 108: Velm, disbanded 25 March 1945
- 3./JG 108: Wiener Neustadt, disbanded 25 March 1945
- 4./JG 108; ? , disbanded 25 March 1945
- II./JG 108: Münchendorf, disbanded 4 February 1945
- 5./JG 108: Münchendorf, disbanded 4 February 1945
- 6./JG 108: Fels am Wagram, disbanded 19 March 1945
- 7./JG 108: Fels am Wagram, disbanded 19 March 1945
- 8./JG 108: Fels am Wagram, disbanded 19 March 1945

Source:

Carlsen, S. & Meyer, M. 2000. Die Flugzeugführer-Ausbildung der Deutschen Luftwaffe 1935 - 1945. Band II. Fliegerwaffenschulen und Ergänzungsgruppen. Zweibrücken: VDM Heinz Nickel Verlag. 576 pp.

harrison987 30th July 2024 14:22

Re: Me109 training unit identification
 
Pretty sure it is Germany.

The US Veteran wrote, "Secret Airfield in Germany" on the album page.

I know he was stationed as an 40mm Bofors AA Gunner in the Ardennes in 44/45, as well as Krefeld and Neckarelz

Would Krefeld or Neckarelz have any birds like this?

Mike

Nick Beale 30th July 2024 15:02

Re: Me109 training unit identification
 
Only a possibility but a lot of units ended up at Bad Aibling in Bavaria as they ran out of places to retreat to, and a lot of GI photos were taken there.

Buckeye30 31st July 2024 12:39

Re: Me109 training unit identification
 
Hi Nick. I think Krefeld is possible as he was stationed there; it was captured by 84 Div. on March 2 and in May-June used for collection and destruction of LW aircraft. On 5th March Krefeld was 84 Div. Command Post as A1704, this was XIII Corps (Ninth Army) attached to the British 21st. Army Group. This is a March document with movements.
The 84th link shows attached units including AA artillery etc. which could have relevence to Mike's original post.
Krefeld had a satellite field nearby which might have stored abandoned aircraft.
Regards
Nick

https://history.army.mil/documents/eto-ob/84ID-ETO.htm

https://tile.loc.gov/storage-service...1/cs000274.pdf

Buckeye30 2nd August 2024 16:36

Re: Me109 training unit identification
 
Mike. The 84th Div. campaigns were Ardennes-Rhineland-Central Europe which matches your "Ardennes-Krefeld-Neckarelz"; they moved back from Germany to Belgium attached VII Corps on 22 Dec. In Jan. 45 the Division was located around Amonines then to Krefeld and on to Hanover.

There was a Concentration Camp at Neckarelz but not like Dachau etc., there were several "labour" sub-camps working on re-located Daimler-Benz aero engines for Heinkel-Messerschmitt. The Germans evacuated them in March so they weren't exactly "liberated"; the Neckar valley was occupied by US forces beginning early April. Incidentally there is a Memorial to the 3rd. US Armd. Div. at Amonines.

If you would like to see the Ardennes study including 84th Div. on "history.army.mil" you can PM me with your e-mail rather than on here as it's not strictly aviation-related.


Nick B. this is part of the Bad Aibling airfield you mentioned above, in May.

http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/AAF/...-III-p744f.jpg
Regards
Nick K.


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