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Johannes 20th January 2025 10:50

Re: Hans Kühnel JG3 & Indus.Soren ?
 
Hi Leo

Have checked again with Loschella which it almost certainly is not. I checked each letter of the name against others on the mikrofilms, the first three letters are almost certainly LOR then the next there was no non-capital c,h,l,p,q,v,w or y to check against, it's one of those and I would say "p" is what it is, so I still think it's "Lorpollo" or "Lorpolla". The officers careers summaries has two names "Loschella" and "Lochella" but comments not sure.

Kind Regards

Johannes

Karoband 20th January 2025 14:04

Re: Hans Kühnel JG3 & Indus.Soren ?
 
Item #3:

http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/album....pictureid=1708

I couldn't find a match for 1443 hrs on 20 February 1944. Is item # 20 the one?

http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/album....pictureid=1709

Item #2:

http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/album....pictureid=1710

Johannes 20th January 2025 17:34

Re: Hans Kühnel JG3 & Indus.Soren ?
 
Sorry

Must have been looking at the wrong line. Yes it's 20th February 1944 sheet nr.6 line 20 1245 hrs.

Kind Regards

Johannes

Rasmussen 21st January 2025 20:27

Re: Hans Kühnel JG3 & Indus.Soren ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rottler (Post 342482)
According to Jagdfliegerverbände Vol. 13/I on 29 April 1944 a B-17 was shot down at 12.05 near Burg by "Einflieger Gottfried Fay", who was a civilian employee of the Jasta Erla.

Something to note here:

1. According to Erla's personnel information, there was no "Einflieger Gottfried Fay". There was only one pilot, Hans Fay, who was still in Antwerp at Erla-Werk VII at least on March 18, 1944. At that time he was Obfw. (at least that's the rank he signs his letters with).

2. According to Prien, the Jasta Erla was disbanded in JFV 13/VI on March 10, 1944, which is why he could not have been a member of this unit on April 29, 1944.

3. I suspect that the mention in Volume 13/I is a misinterpretation of the entry in the overview, because this name does not appear in Volume 13/VI for Jasta Erla.

Rottler 22nd January 2025 00:27

Re: Hans Kühnel JG3 & Indus.Soren ?
 
Hello Rasmussen,

in the overview for 29 Apr 1944 in JFV 13/I the B-17 loss near Burg was claimed by the Erla Werke. According to footnote 1107 on page 400 in JFV 13/I the "Einflieger Gottfried Fay" was a civilian employee of the Erla Werke, not of the Jasta Erla. I have misread this entry.
According to your clarification with regard to the pilot Fay the footnote 1107 is not correct.

Regards
Leo

Johannes 25th January 2025 10:48

Re: Hans Kühnel JG3 & Indus.Soren ?
 
Hi Guys

Just to let you know it is Hans Kühnel formally of JG 3 who made the claim.

Kind Regards

Johannes


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