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Sergio Luis dos Santos

7th November 2006 21:13

Re: Graves of Zerstorer Experten

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Originally Posted by Joe Potter (Post 32217)

I notice that Hptm Egon Albrecht-Lemke is buried together with an unknown, (Ein Deutscher Soldat) in Beauvais Cemetery, could this be his crewman?
Regards
Joe

No Joe, "Ein Deutscher Soldat" refeers to Egon itself. At this time he was flying a Bf 109G from JG 76. Many Zerstörer pilots had their units disbanded and some of them joined the single engined fighters. Most interesting that Egon Albrecht and Wolfgang Ortmann where at ZG 1 at same time on Russian front. Who knows they meet toghether?

Evgeny Velichko

7th November 2006 22:28

Re: Graves of Zerstorer Experten

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laurent Rizzotti (Post 32132)

Best thing you can do is use the Volksbund website (http://www.volksbund.de/graebersuche/content_suche.asp).

For example, it will give you the grave of Johannes Gentzen (in Germany).

Search all your list, and then ask here only those that are not listed on the Volksbund for more details. You will have more luck to draw replies if you had already done a part of the work.

Best regards

Laurent

There is a problem for me:

I Know only names and dates of death...

But on that page it need to fill the following form:

Straße / Nr.*:
Land / PLZ / Ort*:

How can I know it? - I dont know :(

2 Sergio - if You will try to find, what mean, for example, this:

 75 272

I will try to confirm Egon's claims with Russian archive sourses.

S!

Joe Potter

7th November 2006 23:10

Re: Graves of Zerstorer Experten

Sorry Sergio,
I wrongly thought he was in a Bf 110, any further detailed on his loss?

Regards

Joe

Evgeny Velichko

7th November 2006 23:19

Re: Graves of Zerstorer Experten

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On 25 August 1944, Albrecht was forced to break-off a mission because of engine problems. Returning to his base he was intercepted by USAAF P-51 fighters. In the subsequent action, Albrecht was shot down in Bf 109 G-14 (W.Nr. 460 593) “Black 21” over St Claude near Creil. Albrecht managed to bale out of his stricken aircraft but was dead when found on the ground.

It seems that P-51's pilots killed him while he was in parashute... Very often thing with USAAF pilots.

Sergio Luis dos Santos

8th November 2006 02:13

Re: Graves of Zerstorer Experten

2 Sergio - if You will try to find, what mean, for example, this:

 75 272

I will try to confirm Egon's claims with Russian archive sourses.

I guess it may be a location in the "German mapping system" (Planquadratt if I´m not wrong) Not being a "specialist" in any field I hope someone can confirm this and help to identify the places.

It looks I will have to rewrite Egon´s article and that´s good. History means learning again and again and even changing concepts and wrong statements.
:piliot:

Evgeny Velichko

8th November 2006 08:32

Re: Graves of Zerstorer Experten

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sergio Luis dos Santos (Post 32244)

I guess it may be a location in the "German mapping system" (Planquadratt if I´m not wrong) Not being a "specialist" in any field I hope someone can confirm this and help to identify the places.

It looks I will have to rewrite Egon´s article and that´s good. History means learning again and again and even changing concepts and wrong statements.
:piliot:

You are 100% right. Try to use this link :)

Attachment: Reich Defence of II./ZG 1 "Wespe", under command of Egon Albrecht. There is a teble of victoryes.

Laurent Rizzotti

8th November 2006 11:41

Re: Graves of Zerstorer Experten

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eugen Gross (Post 32226)

There is a problem for me:

I Know only names and dates of death...

But on that page it need to fill the following form:

Straße / Nr.*:
Land / PLZ / Ort*:

How can I know it? - I dont know :(

Eugen, on your first search on this site, you will have to fill an (Internet) form about you, that is where the above fields should be filled. The assocaition used it to send me mails (postal, not Internet) asking for money but once every 2-3 years IIRC.

Then you will have access to the search engine of the webiste, that only need the three first letters of the name to do a research, but can be completed by given name, date of death, date or birth, etc...

Evgeny Velichko

8th November 2006 13:10

Re: Graves of Zerstorer Experten

Thank You, Laurent! Now I will try :)

Evgeny Velichko

9th November 2006 15:02

Re: Graves of Zerstorer Experten

Diesing , Ulrich

Geburtsdatum: 12.03.1911
Geburtsort: Trebschen
Todes-/Vermisstendatum: 17.04.1945
Todesort: bei Boizenburg

Ulrich Diesing ruht auf der Kriegsgräberstätte in Boizenburg (Bundesrepublik Deutschland) .
Endgrablage: Block 2 Reihe 2 Grab 3

Gentzen , Johannes

Geburtsdatum: 04.04.1903
Geburtsort: Neubrandenburg
Todes-/Vermisstendatum: 26.05.1940
Todesort:Neuchateau airfield

Johannes Gentzen ruht auf der Kriegsgräberstätte in Neubrandenburg-Neuer Friedhof (Bundesrepublik Deutschland) .
Endgrablage: Block Ru Reihe Mi Grab 1

Evgeny Velichko

10th November 2006 13:16

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Viedebantt Helmut

Geburtsdatum: 23.12.1918
Geburtsort: Bonn
Todes-/Vermisstendatum: 01.05.1945
Todesort: bei Wusterhausen/Dosse

Helmut Viedebantt wurde noch nicht auf einen vom Volksbund errichteten Soldatenfriedhof überführt oder konnte im Rahmen unserer Umbettungsarbeiten nicht geborgen werden.

Lent Helmut
Geburtsdatum: 13.06.1918
Geburtsort: Pyrehne
Todes-/Vermisstendatum: 07.10.1944
Todesort: bei Paderborn

Helmut Lent ruht auf der Kriegsgräberstätte in Stade, Garnisons-Fdh. (Bundesrepublik Deutschland) .
Endgrablage: auf diesem Friedhof

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