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Re: Luftwaffe Gunner Reports

I presume you have looked at Hurricane serials/losses for 238 Sqn. I am no expert of such things but the following came off 238's charge on the following dates:

N2329-25 Jul 40
P2946-19 Jul 40
P2948-18 Jul 40
P2950-13 Jul 40
P3208-25 Jul 40
P3700-3 Jul 40
P3702-26 Jul 40
P3703-6 Jul 40
P3766-20 Jul 40
P3767-15 Jul 40

Re: Luftwaffe Gunner Reports

Thanks Chris,

I will put a name against all of these.

Regards

Jon

Re: Luftwaffe Gunner Reports

Thanks Chris,
I now have another route to take, just looked at the Battle of Britain Then and Now, crossed it with my few 238 0RB copies i have and am left with six aircraft to trace.
NEW POSTING IN ALLIED FORUM.

Cheers Chris.

Re: Luftwaffe Gunner Reports

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Originally Posted by Chris Goss (Post 48181)

Jon/Brian: Suggest also you look at the Combat Reports for these pilots. Strangely, I have just 2 names for Yellow Section (Fenton & Batt)-it is still possible that the 3rd member did not get airborne or could be Bann...

Hi guys, having just seen this thread, I went to check my uncle's (S/L Fenton's) papers and log book re 21 July and found a copy of what appears to be details from the squadron ORB. It states 5 sorties comprising "A" Flight patrolled Warmwell at 20,000ft. A Do 17 was intercepted over Blandford and shot down. P/O Davis' A/C was damaged but landed safely.

The 5 sorties detailed in the ORB comprised F/L Turner, P/O Davis, P/O Wigglesworth, S/L Fenton and Sgt. Batt.

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Originally Posted by Jon (Post 48180)

Bann flew with Yellow Section so very probably was involved in the second D017 claim, interestingly his letter states that he flew with the CO and another (Batt?) on the day he was shot down, and was pleased on his return from bailing out three days later to hear that the other two "got a German"

If Fenton is the CO referred to by Sgt. Bann in his letter, my uncle's log book shows he himself flew on only three dates within your parameters after taking over the squadron on 15 July. These being 17/7, 18/7, 21/7 with the Do 17 on the 21st being his first claim (shared 1/5th). He had no other claims in July.

Hope this helps.

Re: Luftwaffe Gunner Reports

Hello Nick,
Excellent thanks for the information, can you tell me what your Uncle has down for the 18th July, this is the other date i feel Sgt Bann could have been shot down flying P2948, the 21st is now looking like Sgt Bann was not even in the air on this date.
Interestingly Banns letter says he was missing for three days, then on return got leave for two days...if he went missing on the 18th his return to combat would have been on the 24th, I have an ORB with him flying on the 25th so this date does fit.

Thanks
Jon

Re: Luftwaffe Gunner Reports

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Originally Posted by nick de carteret (Post 48255)

I assume I asked you before, but does the log book by any chance show anything different rather than serial?

Re: Luftwaffe Gunner Reports

Hi Franek... re your post. Not quite sure what information are you looking for from the log book... Can you clarify?

Re: Luftwaffe Gunner Reports

Nick
I am always looking for serial/code tie ups. Usually ORBs or log books provided serials or only four digits of serial. Sometimes airmen were so kind to put individual code letters, mix of code letter and digits from serial or even full markings. You never know where your luck is, and that is why I am so eagerly looking for log books. Another matter are comments included there, sometimes rather extensive.