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Csaba B. Stenge 21st November 2007 18:24

Re: "Ace of Hearts" ("Kőr Ász") History of a fighter squadron 1936-1941
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mirek Wawrzynski (Post 49805)
I have asked abut the plane type, I assue it was TB-3 (bomber or civil version -?). And, what is you opinion about this case (maybe other transport)?

Regards
MirekW

Mirek,

Finally it was released in the last week (after some delays), but I met with it only yesterday.

So, the plane was an ANT-9 (ex civilian Aeroflot plane). It was sent for the wounded Major General Belov (cdr. of the 15 Rifle Division), who perished later without the evacuating possiblility. The very details are in the book.

Juha 21st November 2007 20:11

Re: "Ace of Hearts" ("Kőr Ász") History of a fighter squadron 1936-1941
 
Congratulations Csaba!

Juha

Peter Kassak 23rd November 2007 08:23

Re: "Ace of Hearts" ("Kőr Ász") History of a fighter squadron 1936-1941
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Csaba Becze (Post 54533)
Mirek,

Finally it was released in the last week (after some delays), but I met with it only yesterday.

Soo where is the link to publishers site, or some promo?:) cover etc??
come on...show us your finals;)

Csaba B. Stenge 23rd November 2007 09:54

Re: "Ace of Hearts" ("Kőr Ász") History of a fighter squadron 1936-1941
 
Thanks, Juha

PeterKa:

hehe;)
No promo, or whatever else (altough it contains many unpublished details and corrections of former erroneous publications). Since it is in Hungarian language, only few foreigners interested in this book (but in this forum you can find some, that's why I mentioned the book here)

The publisher has a pretty old site and only for distributors.

Here is the front cover:
http://kepfeltoltes.hu/view/070826/f...toltes.hu_.jpg
The pilot below is László Tomor, the Squadron's commander.

Peter Kassak 23rd November 2007 10:12

Re: "Ace of Hearts" ("Kőr Ász") History of a fighter squadron 1936-1941
 
I can see you keep good standard of covers from your aces book;) I like it...
Good luck with the book and fingers crossed for english edition one day;)

PeterKa

Csaba B. Stenge 27th November 2007 15:37

Re: "Ace of Hearts" ("Kőr Ász") History of a fighter squadron 1936-1941
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter Kassak (Post 54643)
I can see you keep good standard of covers from your aces book;) I like it...
Good luck with the book and fingers crossed for english edition one day;)

PeterKa

Thanks, PeterKa,

Well, since among the 190 pictures, 120+ photos from an archive, the copyright fees would be astronomical, but maybe in the future there will be a special way to publish it in English too.

Here is a site, where some sample pages are available from the book:
http://www.konyvnet.hu/konyv.php?kon...8fiMXiSOg8ITgd

F19Gladiator 29th November 2007 07:01

Re: "Ace of Hearts" ("Kőr Ász") History of a fighter squadron 1936-1941
 
Hi Csaba,
I understand you want to publish it in Hungarian first. Ok, fine. However, as Hungarian is a small language group, you can perhaps consider to have the photo captions in Hungarian and English, an English summary and bi-lingual headings in data tables (if you include such) for victory and loss data etc etc making such material available for a larger audience.
This way I am sure you can expect a larger volume of the first edition, perhaps also then financing the speeding up a revised second edition in English.

Another way to go could be to make the book fully bi-lingual as some other publishers have choosen to do.

I believe there are many who are keen to learn more about the Hungarian Air Force WW2 history justifying an English version, and from a commercial point of view a very logic way forward.

Br
Goran

Jukka Juutinen 29th November 2007 11:04

Re: "Ace of Hearts" ("Kőr Ász") History of a fighter squadron 1936-1941
 
If doing a bilingual edition, it should be done like JaPo´s Bf 109K book, i.e. full text in the non-primary language is printed at the end of the book in one large chunk instead of going side by side on the same page which is awful.

Csaba B. Stenge 30th November 2007 18:45

Re: "Ace of Hearts" ("Kőr Ász") History of a fighter squadron 1936-1941
 
Goran,

the situation is not so easy. At first, when we discussed with the Hungarian publisher about this project, I said to them, that it would be the best to doing a fully bilingual version of this book. They said, that it is ok, if I found good English distributors for the project.
I asked several English language publishers, but they were not too keen. If they don't know, what does 'unpublished' mean (which should be a magic word to the publishers), or if they even don't know in which side did the Hungarians fought in the WW II - well, what should I say?
The publishers generally do not want to invest to the translation, to the copyright fees (pictures), they only want to earn money from books. In this case, there was a possibility to doing it, since the Hungarian publisher would pay for the translation and for the photos, not the English ones.
So, the bilingual idea was dropped soon, since there was a deadline in this summer for the entire material. That Hungarian publisher is not appears in the international book market, has no own contact with foreign distributors, so they did not want to invest for the translation if they can sell it only in Hungary, which is totally understandable.
To me, it is no problem, perhaps we'll do in the future few bilingual stuffz, but this one was dropped (because of the lack of English distributors). I'm not in a hurry, have many unpublished materials for some future books. Sooner or later, some of these will be available in English as well.

Jukka,

I agree with you.

F19Gladiator 1st December 2007 03:30

Re: "Ace of Hearts" ("Kőr Ász") History of a fighter squadron 1936-1941
 
Thanks for replying Czaba. Yes, I understand the publisher attitudes you face. I believe there is room for a new publisher focusing on smaller air force's history.

I know there is a magazine Small Air Forces Observer on the subject, perhaps the idea could be expanded into books given someone is willing to "think out of the box" when it comes to book publishing.

What about making a summary in English available via internet for down loading?
Br/Goran


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