Losses in the last days of the Reich
 

bryon, thank you for taking the time to post these pages. It really is invaluable information for the later months of the war for anyone undertaking any detailed research.

Regards Richard.

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Thanks for you precision Ferdinando, and for sharing this new picture!

Cheers
Marc

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Hello Rolfeb,

unfortunately i don`t have the diary you wish.

regards

Byron

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hi nick,

no, of course not! but i am glad when it runs!

all the best - and byron: thanks for these pages!
jim

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@ byron-,

thank you very much for making this access possible to such rare and mostly interesting documents.

Best Regards
Norbert

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Dear Norbert,

Die Freude ist auf meiner Seite, i feel very well doing it.

Byron

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Hai all,

the last pages with losses Marz 1945, thanks for your interest

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Concerning #16: Interesting, that a pilot from I./JG6 was ordered to fly an officer from the Army into a pocket ("Tomaschow" = Tomaszów Mazowiecki) with a Storch. Looks like it was a "Himmelfahrtskommando"...poor guys.

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Hello Byron,

That's fine, the information is great regardless of that! If I can look at the diary at Kew, I'll be able to answer my own question. Looking at the loss reports, K-4s seem fairly rare anyway.

Regards,

Paul Thompson

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Topic worth to be pined :)

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I concur!

Cheers
Marc

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Hi all,

after digging into my archives, i have also found an other war diary (T 321, roll 50) documenting some aircraft losses of the Lw during the month of February 1945.

I am starting with 01.02.1945

regards
Byron

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...es/Jan45-1.jpg

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I`ll try for a better quality

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p.../Jan45-1-1.jpg

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Sorry,

can you read it?

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Hi Byron,

Not as clear as formers but no problem at all; at least concerning the three NAG 8 losses. :D.

Thank you again Byron.

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Hello Byron,

First, thank you ever so much for posting this superb data. Second, and I hate to be the one to do this, but perhaps the result of my advanced age, I can't make head or tails of your last postings.

Steve Sheflin

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Hi guys,

This microfilm is of a very bad quality, very dark, thus i am trying to get it better with photoshop. I hope the next pages will be readable.

hier an other page

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...es/Jan45-2.jpg

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Hello Byron,

Thanks ... And thanks again.
In this last document I read two corrections concerning Stab JG 52 and 1./NAG 2. Do you have the "originals" somewhere?
Somebody else has?

Thank you.

Cheers, franck.

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Kalimera Byron,

The latest scan you posted is clear to read and provides a fascinating insight! For all 109 fans lie myself, you can note the mistakes made at the time by the clerks as in this instance no 25, on 31 January; Bf 109 G-10 W.Nr. 786 496 is in fact...a Mtt-Regensburg produced Bf 109 G-14!

This certainly puts some balm to all 109'ologists who keep - like myself - on making ID errors;-)))

Thanks again for your work
Marc

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A question: What means "KPV" in the (here translated) sentence

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I can only guess, but it could be "Keine Personal Verluste" (= No Personnel Losses)

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Hello Franck,

perheaps i can find the original you want, i ll post it then and i`ll scan again separated the first two unreadable Pics

we continue

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p.../Jan45-3-1.jpg

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Hello Byron,

Not that one, but thank you anyway Byron.
This is the first time I can read such report and believe me I enjoy it! Nice trip.
One said "We know it, it's available here and there .. " maybe, at least everyone can appreciate; it's better like that.
What about KPV? It was a good question.

Thanks again Byron. How is life in Salonica?

Cheers, Franck.

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A bit late (in regard to postings #29 and #30), but here is a photo of J2+23. It's from the G.F. Petrov collection and was published in the Squadron Walkaround No. 43. Too bad this one is not in the Lfl.6 listings...

Regards,
Christian

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Hello,

Thank you Christian!
J2 is clearly visible (at least on that one).
Noticeable is the white(?) trim around numbers, and size. A Bf 109G-6? More details?
A stupid question: What we read on other side: that is; J2 is still in front of cross (from left to right) or behind?

Cheers, Franck.

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Hi Franck,

Salonica is a very erotic town and the light in Greece is not in crisis.

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...atSaloniki.jpg

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...sides/Kai4.jpg

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...pintheback.jpg

On the last pic mount Olymp from the seaside. We can watsh every day the gods.

and an other page Luftwaffe

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...s/Jan19454.jpg

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Hi Franck,

sorry, the caption in the Squadron book doesn't provide any more real details. And in which place the "J2" on the starboard side was positioned? Likely between Balkenkreuz and tailplane, but there was at least one unit (ZG 26) who did it the other way round (at least on some of their crafts). So, until any photographic evidence comes up - no idea...

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Byron,

Good to see again some great pics from Greece! I sure miss being in your country.

Christian, many thanks for posting J2 +23; a nice shot I didn't know... Note the all dark camoflaged G-6 or G-14 in the background. Another fine example of this very late war low-vis camouflage as seen on the erla built G-10's in the 150 000 - 152 000 W.Nr. range.
Any others of those late war 109's to share with us?

Herzlichen Dank!
Marc

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Hi Gents,

take a look on that interesting document

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...itelBefehl.jpg

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Marc,
off course I can share some 109s - but as it was rather quiet on the late war photo front in the web during the last months, I don't know if I can offer something new or really exciting.
I've attached what I think will fit your field of interest (and of which I am not sure if it is in your photostream already). Hope the images are somehow useful!

Regards,
Christian

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Thanks for those Christian! I have them already referenced on my Flickr account.

On my side, I've found another picture of "2J+ Schwarze 23"; I was unaware of its appartenance to NAGr. 3, thanks for solving this one!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...n/photostream/

Byron,

Quite a document you found there... Gruelling times...
Marc

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TOUGH!

and the answer of my question to Roland! J2 + 23 whatever the plane side.

Great Marc; start to be a tool :D.

Regards, Franck.

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One more question: Several Ju87 have comments like What could this mean?

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we continue

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...es/Jan45-5.jpg

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Hi byron-,

thanks for sharing. Where the files from the start of the topic? Could you upload it again?

http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showpo...37&postcount=1

Best regards,

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Thank you Byron for sharing this information with all of us.
Useful stuff indeed.

Seaplanes

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Here are the two pages i posted at the 19th June and i promissed to scan them again. Sorry fot the quality but is readable

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p.../Jan45-1-2.jpg

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...s/Jan45-1a.jpg

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Seaplanes,

You are wellcome

Igor,

Becouse of the Forum rules, i had to delete some, in order to get available space to upload new ones. Once i am done with uploading the new stuff, it is in my plans to upload the first ones you asked again.

Byron

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Thanks for your constant uploading, Byron.

The list in post #74 makes an oppressive mention of a Ju 188 landing mishap in Sprottau which killed 12 refugees passing the street nearby. Interesting information which will unlikely appear anywhere else.

BTW: Do you (or anyone else, for that matter) have in your files the loss of Fw 190 D-9 212152, II./JG 6, from 22 March 1945? Pilot was a Uffz. Hans Markert. It's in the JaPo book, but maybe the original report has some more details, like tactical number of the plane etc. My grandmother watched this crash when she was 12 years old.