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David N 23rd August 2013 02:10
Re: Mediterranean Air War by Chris Shores
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Frank Olynyk (Post 171332)
Chris sent the following in an email to me, in response to questions about the frequency of publication of The Mediterranean Air War:

I also understand that there has been some speculation regarding the frequency of appearance of the volumes. When John Davies of Grub Street pressed me to get on with the series we sat down together and worked out what would be likely to be the size - and came to about seven volumes. I said at the time "You realise that this will take me at least ten years to do - providing that I remain alive and that my health hold out ?" John's response was "I'll take the chance if you will !" and off we went.

When Volume 1 was so unexpectedly well-received last year, Giovanni and I were at Duxford for the signing and in the euforia of the moment, unwisely said, when asked, that we could probably bring out Vol 2 by the same time next year (like now). Madness !! We have tried, and will have the greater part completed by the end of September. But it is a huge job with a team of five to draw all the threads in from - and then there will be the tedious jobs of indexing, listing sources, referencing maps and captioning photos. And please remember guys - I'm not the lively 30 year-old who did 'Fighters over the Desert' - I'm 76, and the rest of the team are not that far behind me. I had been retired for getting on ten years when all this really blew up, and for the last couple of years I have effectively been back to full time work, and look like being so into the forseeable future. My modelling, which I love, has not been touched during that time, and the Boss (thats the lady I've been wed to for the last 53 years) is not always all that amused by it all.

But rest assured, we will all be doing the BEST we can to get these volumes out, and your patience is very much appreciated. Thanks very much for your continued support.

Very good wishes to you all, Chris.

=====================

Further to the question of quotations from German pilots, Chris says that he does not seem to have anything more than what appears in Fighters Over Tunisia. Any number of books on Marseille, but I don't think there are any quotes from him. And looking over a list of my collection of biographies of aces, I don't see much that would apply to volumes 2 or 3 of MAW. Any suggestions? Including bomber, Stuka, transport, etc pilots?

Enjoy!

Frank.
Thanks. I never have seen an interview or comments by Reinert, but many by most of the other German pilots in the various books of recent years.

mars 2nd October 2013 15:55
Re: Mediterranean Air War by Chris Shores
 
Just learn from Stone & Stone that the second column of "Mediterranean Air War" will be delayed until April 2014

John Beaman 2nd October 2013 22:02
Re: Mediterranean Air War by Chris Shores
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Frank Olynyk (Post 171150)
Just back from another week in Washington at NARA II.

I will have to check with Chris to see how much German commentary he has available. I don't know how much untranslated material he has.

With regard to the photo recce units, the intention is to include all combat related losses but less of the strictly accidental losses. For the US, I have end-of-war statistical studies of 12th AF combat units, another of the transport units, and a third of the photo recce units. Among other things these list total monthly losses, so I know how much I am looking for. I also have lists of 12th AF losses through about mid-1944 by serial number. All of this goes into the outline, and then I go looking for details. Which is why I go to NARA II every month for a week (except Jan/Feb/Mar -- bad winter driving).

I have been building a database of aircraft losses, and crew deaths, which is far more detailed than we can put in the books. When the series is done I may look into publishing the database.

Enjoy!

Frank.
My old Friend, you had better publish it! Your other works are the sine qua non!

Frank Olynyk 7th October 2013 11:03
Re: Mediterranean Air War by Chris Shores
 
The nearly final manuscript for volume two of The Mediterranean Air War has gone off to John Davies at Grub Street for final editing and typesetting. Once this is done it will be necessary to review the available photographs and slot them into the book. Then once that is done a rather intense week or more will be spent by Chris in preparing an index. And we should have a reasonable bibliography for this volume. So hopefully everything is on schedule for an April release.

Work has already started on volume 3, which will cover operations from Torch (November 1942) to the Axis surrender in North Africa (May 1943). It is far too early to guess as to when volume 3 will appear.

Enjoy!

Frank.

Dominik 7th October 2013 11:41
Re: Mediterranean Air War by Chris Shores
 
Although I'm not a writer I've noticed that forecasting the publishing date is rather senseless. So I keep my fingers crossed for April publishing date of the second volume of the MAW and I hope that the third volume will be published as soon as it's ready;)
Yet I wish the second volume was published soonner than April.

Felix C 2nd February 2014 00:38
Re: Mediterranean Air War by Chris Shores
 
Email from Amazon regarding volume 2 release date.
Release date: June 30, 2014

Frank Olynyk 8th April 2014 05:06
Re: Mediterranean Air War by Chris Shores
 
News. And progress. The manuscript for MAW2 has been typeset, and a full copy-editing pass has been made on it, and the corrections are on their way back to the typesetter to be incorporated. Chris has completed the preparation of the index for all the personnel of all countries involved. He basically has just the indexing of the units and places to complete. The expectation is that the index will be done in about two weeks, and have been sent to the typesetter. A final proof-reading pass, and the book should go to the printer before the end of the month. Which should mean the book is available in the UK before the end of May, and in the US before the end of June. Approximately, ...

One reason for the delay in getting the book published is that it has grown substantially from MAW1. MAW1 was 560 pages, MAW2 is currently 736 pages, the largest book Grub Street has ever published.

Work on MAW3 will start after a short vacation break.

I would note also that Grub Street is planning to reprint Malta: The Spitfire Year, which has been out of print for some time.

Enjoy!

Frank.

Richard T. Eger 8th April 2014 13:40
Re: Mediterranean Air War by Chris Shores
 
Dear All,

Everyone seems to have passed over Chris' comment that he is 76 and that his wife of 53 years is not all that amused that he is devoting so much attention to this ongoing effort. So, too, is the lady I've been seeing for the past 23 years and I am approaching my 75th birthday, so I know from whence such concerns arrive. My friend Manfred Boehme, who will be 80 this year, was approached in the past to do an update on his famous book on JG 7. There is certainly much new information to add to it, but he mulled over the same concerns as Chris and elected not to pursue it. He thought it unfair to his wife and preferred to spend his time in ongoing research. Both of us have willed our collections to museums so that others will have the benefit of our research. Yes, that leaves a big gapping hole as to our accumulated knowledge to assess what we have, pull together various strings for making far better conclusions than we could when we were young, and the network of friends and associates to help us in our efforts will be gone.

But, life doesn't go on forever and while it is tonic to receive encouragement, it also places on one a burden if one accepts the load. So, our encouragement of Chris to keep going, to complete volume 2 and then, hopefully, the remaining 5 volumes, may be too much to ask. It's "we want, we want, we want" without giving due consideration as to the impact on his and his wife's lives.

Regards,
Richard

kaki3152 11th April 2014 02:59
Re: Mediterranean Air War by Chris Shores
 
I remember William Manchester, the famed historian who started a biography of Winston Churchill, only to be struck by illness and ultimate death. He was trying to find someone to finish his manuscript.

If Christopher Shores doesn't finish his work, I fear it will fall by the wayside.

Nick Beale 11th April 2014 09:57
Re: Mediterranean Air War by Chris Shores
 
I suddenly feel very young in this company! However the trick is to find a partner who is a patchwork quilter. Then you will find out what dedication to a hobby means. Trust me there will never be any complaints about the time you spend on aviation history, it's trivial by comparison.

taitbb 16th April 2014 18:11
Re: Mediterranean Air War by Chris Shores
 
Regarding the reprint of Malta: The Spitfire Year. Thank you very much, I look forward to this as well. Any ETA, and will Malta: Hurricane Years also be reprinted?

In general I am not the OCD type...but it would be nice to see these reprints in a matching trade dress to 'Mediteranean Air War'.

Cheers

Quote:
Originally Posted by Frank Olynyk (Post 182751)
I would note also that Grub Street is planning to reprint Malta: The Spitfire Year, which has been out of print for some time.

Frank Olynyk 29th April 2014 12:42
Re: Mediterranean Air War by Chris Shores
 
I have been informed by John Davies, the publisher at Grub Street who is overseeing the MAW series, that the book has now gone to the printer. It should be in Grub Street's hands by May 23/26, and with Amazon.co.uk by May 30. My experience is that it takes about a month for a book to be available at Amazon.com once it is published in England. Amazon.com currently lists the book as being available on June 19.

Malta: The Spitfire Year will be available on May 26. It is slightly smaller than the MAW volumes (9.5 inches rather than 9.75 inches tall). I would not expect Grub Street to use a larger paper size, since I would not expect the book to be re-typeset. And using a larger paper size, without reflowing the text is just a waste of money.

With apologies, Malta: The Hurricane Years is out of print, and Grub Street does not expect to reprint it. A number of copies are listed at used.addall.com, some reasonably priced, and others unreasonably priced (IMHO).

Enjoy!

Frank.

Dominik 30th April 2014 21:01
Re: Mediterranean Air War by Chris Shores
 
Frank
It's great news about the MAW. Can't wait my copy.
As for both Malta books it's a pity they don't plan to re-print both of them.

phasselgren 23rd May 2014 17:22
Re: Mediterranean Air War by Chris Shores
 
Found this message from Grub Street on Twitter yesterday.
But look what has FINALLY arrived, and it's a tome. A History of the Mediterranean Air War Vol 2 - all 700+ pages
Regards,
Peter

Dominik 24th May 2014 09:42
Re: Mediterranean Air War by Chris Shores
 
Can't wait my copy. Looks fab.

Frank Olynyk 5th June 2014 09:54
Re: Mediterranean Air War by Chris Shores
 
My author's copy of the book arrived yesterday. 736 pages, 695 pages of text. My bathroom scale says it weighs 4 pounds!

Amazon.co.uk should start shipping soon; their website says June 9. And Amazon.com's website says June 19.

Work on MAW3 has started, as the various authors recover. No deadline. No delivery date. When it is ready, it will be announced. No sooner. And the publisher would like to recover too; and not just his health.

Enjoy!

Frank.

Felix C 8th June 2014 02:06
Re: Mediterranean Air War by Chris Shores
 
And there was much rejoicing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enSYlCEz5VI

John(txic) 8th June 2014 10:46
Re: Mediterranean Air War by Chris Shores
 
I received an e-mail from Amazon UK advising me to expect the book between 17th and 19th June.

Alfred.MONZAT 9th June 2014 12:46
Re: Mediterranean Air War by Chris Shores
 
I bought the second volume (and the first) yesterday at an airshow in France but don't know when I will have time to read them x)

Nokose 21st June 2014 01:38
Re: Mediterranean Air War by Chris Shores
 
I received a notice from Amazon.com that they are having a delay in delivering the second volume but will notify me when it comes available. So maybe July.

Fanair 21st June 2014 07:34
Re: Mediterranean Air War by Chris Shores
 
Hello I just received it from Amazon UK, very heavy book and very happy reader !!!

Alain

BruceMk11 23rd June 2014 09:29
Re: Mediterranean Air War by Chris Shores
 
Arrived 'Downunder' this morning. Congratulations to the writing team who have produced another outstanding volume in the series.

Dominik 1st July 2014 09:45
Re: Mediterranean Air War by Chris Shores
 
Mine arrived yesterday. Soon start reading and can't wait next volume. I wish the authors all the best!
Great thank you for your enormous work.

Richard Mills 4th August 2014 10:28
Mediterranean Air War by Chris Shores
 
My copy has duly arrived via the postie and I can only echo all the positive comments made earlier. The book is outstanding.

This is one of the most detailed and comprehensive reference works I have seen and anyone who is deliberating a potential purchase, I can assure you that it is money well spent.

I am already looking forward to the relaease of volume 3.

Regards Richard.

kaki3152 4th August 2014 15:05
Re: Mediterranean Air War by Chris Shores
 
Just heard from Amazon that my copy will ship this week. Woo Hoo!

Carlos

Nokose 5th August 2014 21:46
Re: Mediterranean Air War by Chris Shores
 
I just got my book from Amazon yesterday. It is massive and the text information is packed on each page. So far in the first chapter it has started off with opinions of both German and British pilots but no Italians so far. I'm very pleased with this book especially after missing these books back in the 1960's.

kaki3152 9th August 2014 16:02
Re: Mediterranean Air War by Chris Shores
 
Just a thought...How about posting an online errrata sheet for those annoying typos and such...such things as misspelled names, wrong serial numbers, missing words, you know what I mean. Wonder if this book is in Kindle?

NickM 15th March 2015 18:16
Re: Mediterranean Air War by Chris Shores
 
*BUMP*

By the way, is there an ETA on volume 3?

Frank Olynyk 15th March 2015 19:50
Re: Mediterranean Air War by Chris Shores
 
We are still working on the manuscript for Vol. 3. Part of the problem is that the amount of source material for the period November 1942 to about April 1943 is limited; they didn't bring enough paper, typewriters and clerks with them. So it is difficult to tie the two sides together.

For Vol. 2 we made too many guesses about completing the manuscript, and final publication. We also turned in the manuscript too soon, and it needed additional editing. This time we plan to have all the authors in agreement as to when the manuscript is completed, before sending anything to Grub Street. I can say that the cover painting is in progress, and looks quite nice.

When we turn the manuscript for Vol. 3 in to Grub Street we will announce that. That does not mean that we will also announce a publication date at the same time. A publication date will probably wait until Grub Street decides the manuscript is ready for typesetting.

I think I can say that Vol. 3 will appear before George R R Martin's The Winds of Winter. But don't hold George or me to that. It may even be possible for us to complete the entire 7 or so volumes before A Dream of Spring appears. Maybe. Or maybe not.

Enjoy!

Frank.

mars 20th March 2015 15:54
Re: Mediterranean Air War by Chris Shores
 
News from Grub Street
20 March 2015 The next book in the very popular History of the Mediterranean Air War series by Christopher Shores and associates, Volume Three: Tunisia and the End in Africa, November 1942 - May 1943, is scheduled for publication in "early 2016."

phasselgren 24th September 2015 20:26
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Amazon has the publication date 1 June 2016 for Vol 3.

Regards,
Peter

Felix C 29th September 2015 02:17
Re: Mediterranean Air War by Chris Shores
 
Which Amazon? Cannot find on .com the USA site

Frank Olynyk 29th September 2015 03:25
Re: Mediterranean Air War by Chris Shores
 
The book is listed on both Amazon.com and Amazon.co.uk. With a June 1, 2016 release date. Which at this point is just a guess, since we haven't turned in the manuscript. It is also listed as 736 pages, which is the size of Volume 2, so again, just a guess.

Enjoy!

Frank.

rkalinak 8th November 2015 12:56
Re: Mediterranean Air War by Chris Shores
 
Good day:

Does anyone know if vol. 1 or 2 will be available on Kindle? My shelves are bulging.

Cheers,

Bob K

edwest2 12th May 2016 19:51
Re: Mediterranean Air War by Chris Shores
 
Update from the Stone & Stone web site:


News from Christopher Shores
12 May 2016
Author Chris Shores kindly submitted this update on A History of the Mediterranean Air War, 1940-1945, volume three: Tunisia and the End in Africa, November 1942 - May 1943:
"We are proceeding on target as at 6 May 2016! Page proofs with us and have been checked. Last of the indexing being done currently and should be complete by next week. Going to the printers early June, and planned launch at Duxford Air Show in early July. Circa 630 pages plus index. Jacket cover showing 14th Fighter Group P-38 intercepting formation of Ju 52/3ms.
"The team is already quietly working on Vol 4 which we are getting pretty excited about - but please don't press us yet for programme. We need a bit of a rest after Vol 3! I also suddenly realised that this year marks the 50th Anniversary of the publication of the first 'Aces High' - so I am now in my 80th year. Giovanni and Frank are both in their 70s and Russell, although somewhat younger has nevertheless now retired from the 'day job'. Even Winfried admits to beginning to see the first glimmers of retirement light at the end of the tunnel! More news around the end of the year."









Ed

Jim Oxley 13th May 2016 01:17
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That is very good news indeed!

edwest2 16th June 2016 19:15
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Amazon UK is showing a release date of 29 July for Volume 3.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/History-Med...0SJDP89CHKCGVW



Usual disclaimer,
Ed

Frank Olynyk 24th June 2016 00:03
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MAW3 went to the printer at the end of May. It is John Davies (publisher of Grub Street military books) hope/intention to have the book available at the Duxford Air Show in early July. Chris and Giovanni are expected to be there on the Saturday of the air show, and I have sent a (small) supply of signed sticky labels to Chris for my virtual appearance.

Grub Street usually appears at The Aviation Bookshop tent.

Enjoy!

Frank.

Frank Olynyk 27th June 2016 17:49
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John Davies has emailed the authors of MAW3 to say that the first copy has been received from the printer. I would therefore expect it to be available at the Duxford Air Show July 9/10, with Chris Shores and Giovanni Massimello in attendance on the 9th. And I just mailed some signed sticky labels to Chris. He also states that the books should be shipped to the US in the first week in July. They should therefore be available in September, if not before.

Enjoy!

Frank.

Lagarto 27th June 2016 18:31
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Thank you. I'm looking forward to the book and all the subsequent volumes.


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