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Bruce Dennis 7th November 2018 12:23

GERMAN VIEW OF RAF GROUPS
 
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TICOM I-109

Extracts of translation from report of Lt. LUDWIG of Chi. Stelle O.B.d.L

(note: TICOM report is dated post-war but no date is given for original report from LUDWIG.)

Bruce Dennis 7th November 2018 12:26

GERMAN VIEW OF 8th AF, 9th AF & 2TAF
 
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TICOM I-109

Extracts of translation from report of Lt. LUDWIG of Chi. Stelle O.B.d.L

(note: TICOM report is dated post-war but no date is given for original report from LUDWIG.)

Snautzer 7th November 2018 12:27

Re: Researching the Luftwaffe through Prisoner Interrogations
 
Indeed thanks Bruce, fascinating reading

edwest2 7th November 2018 19:29

Re: Researching the Luftwaffe through Prisoner Interrogations
 
Thank you, Bruce. TICOM Reports were so secret that nothing was said about them in the open literature until 1986.

RodM 8th November 2018 01:17

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Hi Bruce,

thanks for the TICOM report. According to a post-war American study, declassified by the NSA, this particular TICOM report was:

I-109. Translation of a Report by Lt. Ludwig of Chi Stelle O.b.d.L. (Ref.B) based on questions set for him at A.D.l.(K). A TICOM publication.

Lt. Martin Ludwig also features in TICOM reports I-65 and I-135...

Cheers

Rod

Bruce Dennis 8th November 2018 15:03

TICOM I-143 extract
 
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Goering post-war on the value of SIGINT: he had little of substance to offer but this may interest US researchers.

Larry deZeng 8th November 2018 16:48

Re: Researching the Luftwaffe through Prisoner Interrogations
 
For anyone interested, FULA Ost (Funkaufklärungslage Ost = Radio Intercept Situation East) can be found in the Ic/AOK Anlagen of the Armies deployed in Russia. They were daily, weekly and monthly. There are no complete runs, but some of the runs approach that. They mostly concern the movement of VVS units, but Russian ground units are covered too. These, together with the interrogation reports from downed Russian aircrew and other POWs provide detailed coverage of what the Luftwaffe knew about the VVS.

L.

Bruce Dennis 14th November 2018 00:05

GERMAN SIGINT AND SCHWEINFURT RAID
 
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From TICOM report I-212 'Interrogation of George Ruckheim' -

carlo61 24th April 2019 18:31

Re: Researching the Luftwaffe through Prisoner Interrogations
 
Sorry, stupid question... what does the acronym A.D.I. mean ?
(K) = Luftwaffe?
Thank you!

Nick Beale 24th April 2019 19:41

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The British Air Minsitry's Assistant Directorate of Intelligence, "K" Branch (dealing with enemy prisoners and captured documents)

carlo61 25th April 2019 00:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick Beale (Post 268046)
The British Air Minsitry's Assistant Directorate of Intelligence, "K" Branch (dealing with enemy prisoners and captured documents)

thank you!

Edward L. Hsiao 17th February 2020 11:30

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Are there any PW interrogations about the weapons that the Luftwaffe used,especially air to air rockets and surface to air rockets?

Edward L. Hsiao

Peter T 27th August 2020 12:59

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I was contacted by a Luftwaffe pilot. He has a copy of his A.D.I.(K)report. The report is rather general, but he was interviewed several times and is wondering if there are any transcripts of these interrogations and where they are kept.

Thanks

Peter

Larry deZeng 27th August 2020 13:43

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Greetings Peter,

Over a span of some 40 years, I have been through all of the P/W interrogation files I could find at both NARA (WashDC) and BNA (London). No transcripts were seen. Once the interrogation report was written and published, the transcripts became redundant and apparently were later destroyed. Perhaps some others here found some and have a different opinion.

L. :)

ArtieBob 27th August 2020 15:23

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A source of interrogations that some may have overlooked are those made by the USSBS teams. There were a number of them at the USAF museum archives. There are probably some in the USSBS record group at National Archives.


Best regards,


ArtieBob

John Vasco 27th August 2020 23:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter T (Post 293908)
I was contacted by a Luftwaffe pilot. He has a copy of his A.D.I.(K)report. The report is rather general, but he was interviewed several times and is wondering if there are any transcripts of these interrogations and where they are kept.

Thanks

Peter

Was it a 'report', or a 'Summary'? The two are entirely different things.

The Report was held in a folder and contained the verbatim Q & A, as well as any photographs.

The Summary was just that. A summary of what was learned from the interrogation, together with details of their aircraft.

Moriii 10th June 2021 22:55

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Hello everyone,
Is there a finding aid / an index of the ADI(k) files? I am looking for some items quoted by early authors who only gave the name of the interrogated PoW or a not-so-clear reference. A finding aid will help a lot before my next trip to Kew.
Thanks,
Mori

Nick Beale 11th June 2021 10:01

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Yes, there is an index at Kew: AIR 40/2980, "Indexes to AI 1(k) Reports, including Middle East (ME), Allied Force Headquarters (AFHQ) and Combined Mediterranean Force (CMF) reports (1 Jan 1940 – 31 Dec 1944)".

I can't now remember if it includes prisoners' names but it does have units, aircraft types, armament, equipment etc. I only photographed a page covering things I was looking for that day (see attached).

Steve Coates 11th June 2021 11:58

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I don't recall seeing names in any of the indexes for these I've looked at.

John Vasco 11th June 2021 19:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Moriii (Post 306915)
Hello everyone,
Is there a finding aid / an index of the ADI(k) files? I am looking for some items quoted by early authors who only gave the name of the interrogated PoW or a not-so-clear reference. A finding aid will help a lot before my next trip to Kew.
Thanks,
Mori

Here's an example of a 'k' summary:
https://i.imgur.com/9dx5Dz0.jpg

Moriii 13th June 2021 21:28

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Thanks!

I was hoping for an index of interrogated officials, especially those who were questioned at the end or immediately after the war. Looks like there's no other way but to go check the files at kew.

ArtieBob 23rd February 2023 14:19

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Just a quick note, I scanned through this thread and do not believe there has been any mention of the USSBS interogation files. it has been about 50 years since I used them, but they may include both personnel and subject matter not in UK material. Many copies were in the USAF museum archives and the mother lode of USSBS material is at the USNA at College Park, Md. I did notice there was a copy of material from a CIOS interrogation. If anyone could point me to an archive where CIOS working files (not reports) might be, it would be appreciated. My belief is there is important material that has not been well disseminated from both of these sources.
Just as teasers, I have a summary of the C-amt Monatsmeldung, missing only 1 month for most of the war and a field report summarizing one manufacturer production linking RLM W.Nr. with manufactuers W.Nr. and Stammkennzeichen.


Best Regards,


ArtieBob


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