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musec04 30th August 2020 14:14

Re: Photo Voisin
 
Hello,


Currently on ebay is a photo of an overturned Voisin Type 3 LA V.894 at:


https://www.ebay.de/itm/Frankreich-a...MAAOSwYkdfSoLD


Edit.Initial 'fat fingers' Thanks Stig.Or should that be 'fat brain'?



Regards,


Clint

Stig Jarlevik 30th August 2020 15:39

Re: Photo Voisin
 
V.894
Stig

musec04 8th September 2020 22:29

Re: Photo Voisin
 
Hello,


Currently on ebay is a photo of Voisin Type 5 V.970 having fallen into German hands at:


https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-I-Weltk...IAAOSwhU1fV8X6


Regards,


Clint

musec04 20th September 2020 21:47

Re: Photo Voisin
 
Hello,


Currently on ebay is a photo captioned as a Russian operated Voisin at:


https://www.ebay.de/itm/799-Orig-Fot...0AAOSwcAFfZdXT


https://www.ebay.de/itm/790-Orig-9-F...UAAOSwRwFfZeXX



Regards,


Clint

Stig Jarlevik 20th September 2020 23:31

Re: Photo Voisin
 
Anything Russian WW 1 is always interesting

At face value it seems to be the same aircraft, but I have a problem to reconcile the two stated locations since both cannot be correct, or were the borders that different in those days? Many places are called Angern and with the help of Google the only one I can find is Angern in Latvia (todays Engure)

Not very good at uniforms either, but they seem to be German and Austro-Hungarian to me.

Pity we cannot see any unit markings but at least the Russian cockade is visible in one photo. I wonder if it is included in the captured aircraft list available.
Have you checked Grosz?

Cheers
Stig

musec04 21st September 2020 02:04

Re: Photo Voisin
 
Hello Stig,


I must agree that the guard at least looks to be of KuK origin, the officer is a little more ambiguous, but I could be mistaken in either, or indeed both cases.


I've looked up various possibilities for the location of Angern and to my mind both of the most likely locations for a captured Russian Voisin are in Lettland. However, that seems a little far north for KuK troops.


I have now checked Grosz and there is no mention of a captured Russian Voisin, so I'm increasingly tempted to go with the individuals shown as being German, possibly the non officer is a policeman ?.



Regards,


Clint

Stig Jarlevik 21st September 2020 11:26

Re: Photo Voisin
 
Thanks Clint

Sounds pretty much like you are correct.
The officer looks much like a German and the guard could very well be something within the Latvian local police force.

Then of course we could forget any KuK connection and of course the capture is by the Germans.

I don't believe any list of captured flying objects exist from their side, does it?

Can't remember seeing one....
We are soon leaving our hotel and I will not be back home until very late this evening.

Cheers
Stig

musec04 21st September 2020 18:01

Re: Photo Voisin
 
Hi Stig,


As far as I'm aware no complete list of aircraft captured by the German armed forces exists. I would imagine a book on the subject might have some commercial possibilities. Beuteflugzeuge - A Centenial Perspective perhaps, if Jack Herris has a spare moment. I guess the problem is that unlike the British or the KuK forces, no numerical/serial system was introduced to mark aircraft captured by Germany.


I hope you had a good and relaxing time on your travels.


Regards,


Clint

musec04 22nd September 2020 19:42

Re: Photo Voisin
 
Hello,


Currently on ebay is a photo of Italian Voisin Type 5 LAS V.1029 at:


https://www.ebay.it/itm/Regia-Aerona...EAAOSwgdlfag0~


Regards,


Clint

musec04 27th September 2020 12:31

Re: Photo Voisin
 
Hello,


Currently onebay is a photo of Italian Voisin Type 5 1316 of 5 Squadriglia at:


https://www.ebay.it/itm/R-Aeronautic...EAAOSwmyBfcEWg


Regards,


Clint

musec04 1st October 2020 22:55

Re: Photo Voisin
 
Hello,


Currently on ebay is a photo of a Voisin Type 4 of VC 111 (?) at:


https://www.ebay.fr/itm/Photo-aviati...UAAOSw7kRfcvxT


Regards,


Clint

musec04 1st November 2020 12:42

Re: Photo Voisin
 
Hello



Currently on delcampe is a photo of Voisin Type 8 LBP V.1791 of L’Ecole d’Avord at:


https://www.delcampe.net/fr/collecti...119357944.html



Regards,


Clint

musec04 9th November 2020 12:31

Re: Photo Voisin
 
Hello,


Currently on delcampe is a photo of Voisin Type 8 LBP V.1748 at:


https://www.delcampe.net/fr/collecti...126067053.html



Regards,


Clint

musec04 23rd November 2020 16:24

Re: Photo Voisin
 
Hello,


Currently on delcampe is a photo of a Voisin Type VII 2841 at:


https://www.delcampe.net/fr/collecti...137623797.html



Regards,


Clint

musec04 16th February 2021 18:51

Re: Photo Voisin
 
Hello,


Currently on ebay is a photo of Voisin Type 5 LAS V.970 at:


https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-franzos...sAAOSwSwBgK~IV


This aircrsft was also posted (but is no longer viewable on post 43 of this thread.


Regards,


Clint

musec04 21st February 2021 10:27

Re: Photo Voisin
 
Hello,


Currently on ebay is a photo, taken just after the war, of the Voisin Type 12 at:


https://www.ebay.com/itm/1918-Early-...oAAOSwjqNgMbil


Regards,


Clint

musec04 28th December 2021 19:17

Re: Photo Voisin
 
Hello,


Currently on ebay are a number of photos of Voisn aircraft:


Voisin Type 3 V.499



https://www.ebay.fr/itm/304280269663...sAAOSwbM9hyuoD


Voisin Type 5 V.1275


https://www.ebay.fr/itm/304280266839...IAAOSwFEhhyuit


Others:


https://www.ebay.fr/itm/304280270638...0AAOSwVidhyupR


https://www.ebay.fr/itm/304280269940...kAAOSwOrBhyuow


There is a photo of V.499 in G Alegi's WDF 135 at which time it was with the ecole d'amberieu.It does not however have the stripes of the machine shown in the link above.Does anyone recognise the unit?



I have no information on V.1275,but would like to know which unit flew the machine if known.


The seller has other photos both from the Great War and later (often much,much later at:


https://www.ebay.fr/sch/m.html?item=...=avion&_sop=10


Regards,


Clint

musec04 19th February 2024 20:45

Re: Photo Voisin
 
Hello,


Currently on ebay is a photo of an intriguingly marked Voisin Type III 'Remember Robert'. Both VB 102 and VB 103 used roman numerals on their aircraft,so possibly the machine is from one of these two units.


https://www.delcampe.net/en_GB/colle...971723967.html


Regards,


Clint

musec04 6th March 2024 12:51

Re: Photo Voisin
 
Hello,


Currently on ebay a nice photo of Voisin Type 4 Cannon V.815


https://www.ebay.fr/itm/176272534048...8AAOSwMr5l5~8u


Regards,


Clint

musec04 24th October 2024 21:48

Re: Photo Voisin
 
Hello,


Currently on ebay is a photo of the much photographed Italian Voisin Type 3 V.1441



https://www.ebay.de/itm/156474390199...UAAOSwu-JnGhYZ


Also the intriguingly serialled Voisin V.S.380


https://www.ebay.de/itm/156474403637...oAAOSw1HtnGhgq




The seller currently has an immense number of photos for sale,some seen before, of WW.I,interwar civil and military aircraft,many either Jugoslav or photographed there as well as one or two WW.II machines at


https://www.ebay.de/sch/i.html?item=...o_much&_sop=10



Regards,


Clint

musec04 2nd January 2025 20:06

Re: Photo Voisin
 
Hello,


Currently on ebay is a photo of a Voisin Type 4 Cannon. The chevron is typical of the CRP marked machines,however is downwarsa pointing rather than the more usual forward pointing chevron,so perhaps not the CRP?


https://www.ebay.fr/itm/306014831984...kAAOSwDz1ndpzC



Regards,


Clint


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