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different wrecks:
https://sefsfg.bn.files.1drv.com/y4m...&cropmode=none
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-WW...19.m1438.l2649

Regards,
Rudi

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Ju 88 A's and Ju 52, Villacoublay, September 1944.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-WWII...0AAOSwQwdak2L6

Cheers
Marc

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Ju 52 Tunis:
https://seev5g.bn.files.1drv.com/y4m...&cropmode=none
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-194...19.m1438.l2649

Regards,
Rudi

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B17 German markings https://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-PIC-OR...sAAOSwlMpalH2Y
Fw190 https://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-PIC-OR...cAAOSwt5BalJE4
Ar96 https://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-PIC-OR...IAAOSwrdhalIsr
Ar96 https://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-PIC-OR...cAAOSwxkpalIxH
FW190D https://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-PIC-OR...oAAOSwhBFalJG8
Ju388 https://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-PIC-OR...IAAOSwg55alImy
Bf109 https://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-PIC-OR...cAAOSw9dhalIOL
Bf110 https://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-PIC-OR...oAAOSwoFBalJM5
Bf1110 Nightfighter https://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-PIC-OR...sAAOSwWb9alMCa
Ar96 Bf109 FW190 https://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-PIC-OR...QAAOSw27JalMI7

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Anyone who can ID this 190?

Fw190 https://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-PIC-OR...cAAOSwt5BalJE4

Looks a bit like WNr 354374? :confused:

Cheers
Stig

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I cannot see the photo. Can you please post a direct link to the auction?

Thanks,

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http://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-PIC-ORI...cAAOSwt5BalJE4

@ Stig, I do read W.Nr. 350 374, a W.Nr. close to a known FW Aslau produced Fw 190 A-8 batch (W.Nr. 350 151- 350 300).

Cheers
Marc

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re post 806... The B.17 is 42-30713 Phyllis Marie...

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Hi Marc,

I think it is 380 374. Here is another shot of the same machine:

http://fw190.hobbyvista.com/380block.htm

Wondering where these photos were taken. I bet there were not many airfields with Ju 388. Merseburg?

Cheers
Roger

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Hi there,

the photos were shot at different locations. The ones with Fw 190 380374 are from Pilsen, B-17 "Phyllis Marie" was captured at Altenburg (IIRC). Don't know about the others though..

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Thanks Roger (and Christian/Marc)

Maybe 380354 is the only digits that fit? Otherwise I cannot understand how anyone can even interpret the first three digits shown in the photo by Andrew.....:) Looks even worse than from the lousy angle we started out with here.
Perhaps it is recorded as 380354? Oh well, if everyone agrees, then I will show it like that, unless someone objects of course.....

With regard to the Ju 388 line up, yes I have another photo which states Merseburg, so I think it is a good probability.

Cheers
Stig

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Unlikely that these Ju388s are at Merseburg. There was no line up of such planes, although many were there, most of them damaged and dispersed.
Most probably these Ju388 are photographed - as often - at the ATG Schleuse Altenburg.

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Stig, you can see the W.Nr. clearly on this photo:
http://pilot-vv.rajce.idnes.cz/B_Pre...1946/#0116.jpg

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Danke Roger !

Aa for the location, there is a fair possibility the 109's were depicted at Altenburg indeed:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...7631640990343/

If this can be confirmed, we have I./JG 110 machines.

Cheers
Marc

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And some new ones just put online by the same seller:

Altenburg Fw 190's:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-PIC-ORI...YAAOSwHMZalY78
http://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-PIC-ORI...UAAOSwKH5alYwc

Bf 109 G-?/AS, Altenburg ?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-PIC-ORI...8AAOSw5zNalZML

Fw 190's of II./JG 300 (?), possibly at Holzkirchen ?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-PIC-ORI...AAAOSwevZalZHP

Ju 88 and Bf 110 G-4
http://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-PIC-ORI...AAAOSwTPlalY2r

Cheers
Marc

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Thanks Marc!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-PIC-OR...AAAOSwevZalZHP - This one is from Zellhausen, Bf 109 <<2+ from JG 4 in the background. But I think this is the first shot we have of the Fw 190 D-9 in the foreground showing some of its markings and its Werknummer..

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That settles it :)
Thanks
Stig

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With a magnificent exhaust cover for night Jagd!

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#820 And a slightly different look http://pilot-vv.rajce.idnes.cz/B_Pre...1946/#0117.jpg

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Not on ebay but on Wehrmacht-awards:
http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=951346

Does anyone have an ID on the Me 262?

https://segwwg.bn.files.1drv.com/y4m...&cropmode=none
https://seflzw.bn.files.1drv.com/y4m...&cropmode=none
https://sehmqw.bn.files.1drv.com/y4m...&cropmode=none
https://sefzxq.bn.files.1drv.com/y4m...&cropmode=none
https://seh00q.bn.files.1drv.com/y4m...&cropmode=none
https://fm3afq.bn.files.1drv.com/y4m...&cropmode=none

Regards,
Rudi

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Thanks Rudi for these last pictures.
That Me262 with "A6" stencils was already commented in TOCH (2014); another different photo ... Without ID!

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Gents,

Without consulting my files, I think the Fw 190 D-9 in Post 819 is a 600xxx werknummer series machine based on the small fuselage balkenkreuz. If so, then "WNr.600--6". The tail band (yellow-white-yellow) points to JG 2, and the white III. Gruppe bar a machine from 9. Staffel.

Cheers,

David

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Why not blue-white-blue band of JG 300?
The bar is rather of II. Gruppe. II./JG 300 had Doras according to strength reports cited in JaPo book, was II./JG 2 reequipped with them too?

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Hi Rudi,

To my eye the werknummer of the Me 262 in post #823 is 11074x.

Thanks for posting.

all the best,

Jim

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The D-9 is "White 12" of II./JG 2 found at Babenhausen, Germany.
Cheers, Jerry

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Thanks Jim & ouidjat. Very much appreciated.

Regards,
Rudi

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You are welcome Rudi,

Thanks to Jim's falcon eye I think it' 110748
Dan wrote: "Belly landing and engine fire on 28 February 1945, found at Schwäbisch-Hall" ...
But is it Schwäbisch-Hall on the present picture?
And on mine ? :) (old auction I think)

Tschüss, Franck.

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Thank you, Jerry.

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You are welcome.
Cheers, Jerry

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Many thanks for your expertise, Jerry !

Thanks to the helping pointer of Olivier Menu, over on Bf 109 from Anton to Toni Group, you set the record straight for those planes found at Babenhausen and not at Zellhausen as stated by Hideki Noro.

Much indebted
Marc

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Gents,

Thanks all for the clarifications regarding the Fw 190 D.

The Me 262 on the right in post 831 is a close relative of the one on the left, it being WNr.110745 found at Giebelstadt. Though not posted here, it is seen in a well known NARA photo that is an oblique aerial view from its right side adjacent to a bomb crater. A comparison with the above and this image matches exactly with the bomb crater in front of the machine and position of the engines. A rather reduced version of the image is shown on page 623 of the Classic Me 262 Volume 3.

Cheers,

David

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Thank you David.
:)

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It depends of which Babenhausen (Hesse or Bavaria) we are talking about.
This said, here are the respective positions between Babenhausen and Zellhausen.

Enjoy it :)

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ANd if continue here:
https://fliegerschicksale.de.tl/JG-2...-1944_1945.htm
we can find this. (extract and screen capture)

Tschüss,
Franck.

PS: Do not hesitate to tell me I'm wrong. This can happen and Fw190D-9 aren't my cup of tea ... But the Bf109 behind is :)

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Thanks for your fact checking, Franck ! If from II./JG 2, «*Weisse 12*» would nail the location at Zellhausen indeed, as stated by Hideki Noro in «*LO+ST*».

Cheers
Marc

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Me 262 white 2 WNr 170071
https://fm11ig.bn.files.1drv.com/y4m...&cropmode=none
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-WW...19.m1438.l2649

Regards,
Rudi