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Dan History 6th January 2019 20:38

Re: German docs in TSAMO
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by azapf1972 (Post 263236)
At the moment, there is one directory per file with the individual pages in the correct sequencing and an XML file that holds the file's metadata (including the lengthier description you requested above.

I am back at work tomorrow but there is certainly stuff to play with...

Andreas, that makes me very happy indeed :) Is there some way in which I can help? I am ready and willing to, and I am sure a few others here are, too :)

Kind regards,

Dan

azapf1972 6th January 2019 22:23

Re: German docs in TSAMO
 
Dan,

actually this is running much smoother than anticipated... so far, I grabbed
  • Findbuch 12466 - Panzerarmeen
  • Findbuch 12472 - AOK 1-10, 1937-1945
  • Findbuch 12476 - Flakkorps und Flakdivisionen

Actually, the last one is just downloading. I intend to continue with 12461, 12478, 12485...

I need to find a way to convert the masses of JPGs to PDFs but that comes last, once I got all data... I am not sure if they will ignore me leeching or do something about it... but until then...

Andreas

PS: Happy to share afterwards

Mikael Olrog 7th January 2019 16:22

Re: German docs in TSAMO
 
Following your efforts with interest Andreas!

Larry deZeng 7th January 2019 16:35

Re: German docs in TSAMO
 
I have already started working 12476. For those interested, Akte 2 contains nearly 600 daily reports to and from I. Flakkorps in S Russia giving details on every single VVS aircraft claimed. There is soooo much of it that it would take someone about one year full time to record each and every one of them. Once again, these are German Flak claims and not fighter claims.

L.

Dénes Bernád 7th January 2019 16:55

Re: German docs in TSAMO
 
Larry, any positive identification of the Soviet arcraft shot down? Like serial/cosntroction number, or VVS unit (from prisoners)? Thanks.

azapf1972 7th January 2019 22:49

Re: German docs in TSAMO
 
OK, NOW I could use some help: I have downloaded approx. 150.000 individual pages so far. They are now sitting on my disk drive. I need to maintain a "technical" organization so when I repeat the process when new documents show up I don't download what I already got once more. Therefore, the organization is as follows:
  1. Each Catalog has a directory within this folder, following the catalog's number (e.g. 12450, 12460, etc.)
  2. Within each Catalog Directory, each file has its own sub-directory, identified by the file's ID (e.g. 5932, 5937, etc.) - this is the number you see when you are closely looking at the URL for each file - it goes http://wwii.germandocsinrussia.org/de/nodes/[XXXX]-[TITLE] where XXXX is the number I am referring to. I need to maintain these so I later know which files are new and which are not.
  3. Within each file's directory are the individual pages - prefixed by a 7digit number I created just in case the pages are not coming "in sequence" - then a dash and then the actual page number as given by the server. Doing this guarantees the proper sequencing on the file system.
  4. Last but not least, within each file's directory is one XML file that gives the file's metadata - Signature, Title, Annotation, Start- and Enddate, and number of pages (if provided)

To make downloads easier, in the folder I am sharing you fill find the structure described above but each catalog directory contains one ZIP File for each of the files contained (and the ZIP contains the directory and the individual pages) - so far so clear?

Here is the link to the folder. You need to navigate into the directory, then into any zip file and then use the download button from within to download the ZIP...

I am giving you 12476 tonight which is the Flakkorps and Flakdivisions - I need some folks to double-check the files you can grab against the website. In other words: if I give you a file, I need a few of you to grab some of them and make sure that I grabbed the file correctly: all pages included, metadata correct, zoom level as best as the server provides (I always picked level 8, I did not find a file I could zoom in more).

My computer will be zipping and uploading over the next hours... remember, these files are huge so this will take a while (despite my fast upload line). If you don't see the files, come back later...

Now, happy leeching and let me know what you find, good or bad so I know what I might have to correct...

Andreas

Andrei Demjanko 7th January 2019 23:12

Re: German docs in TSAMO
 
Findbuch 12476 Akte 38 contains documents of Luftwaffengruppe Kaukasus. Besides flak this HQ had flying units under its control and standard information as daily number of sorties by unit, claims, losses etc. is available in Tagesabschlußmeldungen. For example there is some nice info about bombing missions flown by long-range recce unit 4.(F)/122. Also present in this folder are daily orders given by Luftwaffengruppe Kaukasus to flying units under its control

Larry deZeng 8th January 2019 01:01

Re: German docs in TSAMO
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dénes Bernád (Post 263277)
Larry, any positive identification of the Soviet arcraft shot down? Like serial/cosntroction number, or VVS unit (from prisoners)? Thanks.

Hi Dénes,

No, not with the ones I have seen so far. These are just Batterie und Abteilungen reports that give the date, time, altitude, probable VVS target, number of shells fired and either where the aircraft probable came down or the condition of the aircraft when it was last seen, i.e., smoke coming from the engine and losing altitude headed east. I'll keep you in mind if I come across any of the things you have an interest in.


L.

azapf1972 8th January 2019 19:07

Re: German docs in TSAMO
 
Gentlefolks,

After providing "12476 - Flakkorps and Flakdivisionen" yesterday, I will add other catalogs today. So far, I only got one person giving me feedback via eMail, indicating that the small number of files checked seemed OK. So I assume, the process is working unless someone here proofs me wrong ;)

So I am adding
  • Findbuch 12471 - Heeresgruppe E, F
  • Findbuch 12487 - Unterlagen zu Kompanien der Wehrmacht
  • Findbuch 12495 - Rückwärtige Heeres- und Armeegebiete der Wehrmacht
  • Findbuch 12497 - Amt Ausland / Abwehr im OKW

In addition, "12474 - Armeekorps" is loading tonight and is automatically adding itself to the Dropbox link above. There will be 787 files to load so this one will take :)

When done with that, I will add "12450 - OKW" and "12451 - OKH" just for completeness (and because I need them in case they add to them later).

I did not mention it before but I will keep my files organized as the individual JPG per Page - but if you prefer PDF, you can easily create a PDF from the JPGs with a variety of (often free) tools.

Andreas

Andrey Kuznetsov 10th January 2019 00:45

Re: German docs in TSAMO
 
Hi Dénes,

It seems Lfl.4's order 11.9.42 about Romanian aviation with the list of units and their strength would be interesting for you:
http://wwii.germandocsinrussia.org/pages/862642/zooms/8
http://wwii.germandocsinrussia.org/pages/862643/zooms/8
http://wwii.germandocsinrussia.org/pages/862644/zooms/8

Best regards,
Andrey


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