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edwest2 6th February 2020 19:33

Re: eBay: Allied intrest
 
https://www.ebay.de/itm/FOTO-FLUGZEU...sAAOSwFFBeOxH8
https://www.ebay.de/itm/FOTO-FLUGZEU...MAAOSwIxFeOb9F

edwest2 7th February 2020 18:56

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https://www.ebay.de/itm/FOTO-FLUGZEU...YAAOSw4DVePE66
https://www.ebay.de/itm/P80-Marchais...4AAOSwPFBeMBqP

edwest2 8th February 2020 01:34

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https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Flugzeu...0AAOSwbAZePaam

Faenor 8th February 2020 07:11

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Hi all,

next Hurri - probably France 1940

https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Flugzeu...75.c100623.m-1

Faenor

Bertrand H 8th February 2020 07:41

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Thanks Ed

*link #923 : read serial N6154

edwest2 8th February 2020 20:41

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You're welcome Bertrand.


Ed

edwest2 8th February 2020 20:41

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  1. https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-2-WK-19...gAAOSwxOReMVnx
  2. https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-2-WK-19...IAAOSw~tJeMVBk
  3. https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-2-WK-19...gAAOSwbl9eMU~Y

edwest2 9th February 2020 00:02

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Climate and Weather for Flight in Naval Operational Zones, 1944

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Climate-and...AAAOSwZ~pePwYS

edwest2 9th February 2020 20:43

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https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Flugzeu...oAAOSwhbZeP9UI

edwest2 10th February 2020 18:57

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https://www.ebay.de/itm/Orig-Foto-Lu...EAAOSwfQhc6tdw

edwest2 12th February 2020 00:47

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  1. https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Wehrmac...oAAOSwnYVeQrdM
  2. https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-2-WK-19...gAAOSwngJeQtJT
  3. https://www.ebay.de/itm/Aluschta-Kri...UAAOSwoMFePAU3
  4. https://www.ebay.de/itm/Bergung-Fran...gAAOSwtcteQTcZ

edwest2 13th February 2020 00:46

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https://www.ebay.de/itm/2-x-Foto-Flu...EAAOSwcVdeRFAl
https://www.ebay.de/itm/Franz-Flugze...0AAOSwtN9eQ~wO

edwest2 14th February 2020 03:19

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  1. https://www.ebay.de/itm/Frankreich-e...8AAOSwfedeRbS4
  2. https://www.ebay.de/itm/FOTO-FLUGZEU...oAAOSwK8BeRZxT
  3. https://www.ebay.de/itm/FOTO-FLUGZEU...8AAOSw~PdeRZw0
  4. https://www.ebay.de/itm/FOTO-FLUGZEU...kAAOSwyzleRZwV
  5. https://www.ebay.de/itm/FOTO-FLUGZEU...4AAOSwm8ZeRZvG
  6. https://www.ebay.de/itm/FOTO-FLUGZEU...cAAOSwiJReRZub
  7. https://www.ebay.de/itm/FOTO-FLUGZEU...EAAOSwevJeRZtR
  8. https://www.ebay.de/itm/FOTO-FLUGZEU...IAAOSw~QdeRYOO

Bertrand H 14th February 2020 06:47

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Thanks Ed,
#933 link1 ; 150 sqdn, JN-P P2184

edwest2 14th February 2020 23:27

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You're welcome Bertrand.


Best,
Ed

Faenor 15th February 2020 05:50

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Hi all,

nice photo of Fairey Swordfish - probably from 825.Sq FAA - lost during MAy 1940

https://www.ebay.de/itm/FOTO-FLUGZEU...IAAOSw~QdeRYOO

same like this plane:
https://www.worldwarphotos.info/gall...h-france-1940/

Faenor

Faenor 15th February 2020 05:54

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Hi all.

French V-156F?
https://www.ebay.de/itm/org-Foto-Fra...75.c100623.m-1

Faenor

Bertrand H 15th February 2020 06:58

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Hi,

#post 937

Yes same place , Boulogne-Le Portel

Attachment 18950

Bertrand

edwest2 16th February 2020 01:28

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https://www.ebay.de/itm/B293-Foto-We...4AAOSwSydeSE7k
https://www.ebay.de/itm/B243-Foto-We...cAAOSw2bReSD1R

edwest2 16th February 2020 21:12

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  1. https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-polnisc...gAAOSwhDJeRnw8
  2. https://www.ebay.de/itm/FOTO-FLUGZEU...gAAOSwRi9eSYrn
  3. https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-franzos...QAAOSwkvheRT~5
  4. https://www.ebay.de/itm/Orig-Foto-be...gAAOSwPFBeSYJ0
  5. https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-abgesch...EAAOSwW-ZeSWr7
  6. https://www.ebay.de/itm/Frankreich-f...0AAOSw4zJeSTvB
  7. https://www.ebay.de/itm/Frankreich-f...wAAOSwzhleSTqN

edwest2 17th February 2020 02:05

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  1. https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Wehrmac...UAAOSwGPFeSYXq
  2. https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Wehrmac...UAAOSwJ4peSYfy
  3. https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Wehrmac...QAAOSwChteSYjM
  4. https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Wehrmac...cAAOSwPFBeSYnR

Faenor 17th February 2020 20:48

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Hi all,

nice photos of Hawker Hurricane Mk. I P2573 from 607. SQ:

https://www.ebay.de/itm/Orig-Foto-be...gAAOSwPFBeSYJ0

https://www.ebay.de/itm/Orig-Foto-be...75.c100623.m-1

Faenor

Tom Willis 18th February 2020 02:02

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Thanks Faenor
Can anybody tell me why there is no RAF insignia on the tail? As this Hurricane was found at a Belgium AF Base could it have been about to be handed over to the Belgian AF?

Martin Gleeson 18th February 2020 04:40

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Faenor,

Those two Hurricane photos are not of P2573 from 607 Squadron. Many photos of P2573 show it with the engine and front of the aircraft very badly burnt. Some show the individual letter 'K' but there was no unit code on it. Also a fin flash can be seen and the buildings are different.

Based on the partial serial that is visible I suggest it could be one of the following;
P2833 CFF from 17 May 1940
P2873 CFF from 18 May 1940
P2973 Tangmere from 6 June 1940
P3533 CFF from 17 May 1940
All of these were almost certainly replacement aircraft ferried over to France. The dates given as being taken on charge are somewhat suspect in all cases, they could have reached France days earlier or later.
Just because the vendor says it is located in Belgium is not enough proof for me. Most RAF aircraft had a fin flash applied by 10 May 1940 but not every one. If this was a Belgian aircraft it should have a large white two-digit number on the tail.

It would be great if someone can reveal its identity.

Regards,

Martin Gleeson.

Faenor 18th February 2020 05:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Gleeson (Post 283052)
Faenor,

Those two Hurricane photos are not of P2573 from 607 Squadron. Many photos of P2573 show it with the engine and front of the aircraft very badly burnt. Some show the individual letter 'K' but there was no unit code on it. Also a fin flash can be seen and the buildings are different.

Based on the partial serial that is visible I suggest it could be one of the following;
P2833 CFF from 17 May 1940
P2873 CFF from 18 May 1940
P2973 Tangmere from 6 June 1940
P3533 CFF from 17 May 1940
All of these were almost certainly replacement aircraft ferried over to France. The dates given as being taken on charge are somewhat suspect in all cases, they could have reached France days earlier or later.
Just because the vendor says it is located in Belgium is not enough proof for me. Most RAF aircraft had a fin flash applied by 10 May 1940 but not every one. If this was a Belgian aircraft it should have a large white two-digit number on the tail.

It would be great if someone can reveal its identity.

Regards,

Martin Gleeson.

Hi Martin,

there are my information about plane P2573:
11.5.1940 - P/O P.Dixon followed the german plane deeply to the German territory and ran out of fuel.Landed on Belgian airport Tirlemont. Whilst he was searching for fuel, his plane was damaged during the next german air and pilot return to his unit without plane which he left on the airport.

There are some of other photos of the same plane from old e-bay.de auctions:
http://www.modelari.org/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=2539

Plane:
3 propeller blades - probably RAF machine
RAF cocarde - visible on some photos - 100% sure it is RAF plane
On the photo with Ms 406, there are visible squadron codes - AF
location - it is on 99% Goetsenhoven
http://www.belgian-wings.be/Webpages...n_airfield.htm

if you check the photos from the link above - the 3rd digit is on 100% number 5 and the next are 73.

Based on these information, it is on 99,99% % P2573.
Maybe I´m wrong, or we are speaking about 2 different plane - if you want, please send me PM or my e-mail is: Jaroslav.petracek1977@gmail.com.
I´m just the amateur but I´m collecting the photos of Hurricane from Battle of France 1939-1940 (and now start with Battles and Blenheims)

Faenor

Tom Willis 18th February 2020 11:34

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Thanks Faenor and Martin
I judged that this was a Belgium Air Base due to the large amount of destroyed and intact Belgian aircraft at this location. I agree with Faenor and state that this damaged Hurricane would appear to be P2573 going by the partial serial number in the photo and the details given by Faenor. Additionally I have checked out the three hangars in the photo and they check-out with those at Tirlemont Air Base (Goetsenhoven) which survived the war and into the 1950/60s. Positive identification is the sharp sloping fronts to the roofs of the hangars (the airfield had six in all). So given the facts it is Tirlemont then I would put my money on it being P2573)

Martin Gleeson 18th February 2020 16:23

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Faenor, Tom

My apologies, you are correct. It does seem to be P2573 (Dixon) as you say. The aircraft I was referring to is P2873 'K' (Blackadder) also of 607 Squadron, but damaged on 18 May 1940 and subsequently abandoned at Vitry.

This is what happens when one replies at 3.40 a.m. !

Regards,

Martin.

edwest2 18th February 2020 17:33

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https://www.ebay.de/itm/Calais-Frank...oAAOSwe5peS7dp

edwest2 18th February 2020 20:22

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https://www.ebay.de/itm/B326-Fotos-W...MAAOSw675eTCuw
https://www.ebay.de/itm/B325-Fotos-W...0AAOSwWI1eTCs4
https://www.ebay.de/itm/B324-Fotos-W...UAAOSwU7JeTCrA

Faenor 19th February 2020 10:05

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Hi all,

another photos of this plane - Whitley P4986 from 51. SQ . Serial number is visible.
lost 16-17.8.1940
http://aircrewremembered.com/scott-john-stanley.html

Faenor

edwest2 20th February 2020 22:32

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https://www.ebay.de/itm/C087-Foto-We...4AAOSwsB9eTtRq
https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-BEUTE-F...sAAOSw~QdeRTN2

edwest2 21st February 2020 00:48

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  1. https://www.ebay.de/itm/C137-Foto-We...cAAOSw8YdeTuva
  2. https://www.ebay.de/itm/abgeschossen...4AAOSwUQBeST4K
  3. https://www.ebay.de/itm/C135-Foto-We...YAAOSw9MReTurr
  4. https://www.ebay.de/itm/C134-Foto-We...0AAOSwOK1eTupz
  5. https://www.ebay.de/itm/Frankreich-n...AAAOSwSydeTrDz
  6. https://www.ebay.de/itm/C130-Foto-We...8AAOSwt6heTuiS
  7. https://www.ebay.de/itm/C126-Foto-We...kAAOSwfJheTuay
  8. https://www.ebay.de/itm/C122-Foto-We...sAAOSwStheTuTS
  9. https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Wehrmac...wAAOSw4UReTkUv
  10. https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-englisc...kAAOSwdndeTqU2

Faenor 21st February 2020 12:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Gleeson (Post 269190)
Harrow photos, Posts 546 and 550.
.
Faenor and Paul,
.
Paul, this is a new image to me but definitely the same aircraft as seen in other EBay photos.
.
As you state there is no mention of this loss in the 271 Squadron ORB. The last record of it in the Form 541 part of the ORB is on 10 June 1940 when it was flown back late that day to England from le Mans in France. K6996 is not recorded again in the F.541 for the rest of June or all of July 1940.
.
Apparently the last RAF aircraft left France on June 18th and Jersey on June 20th. If the date of 20 June 1940 is correct then it is possible the Harrow photos were taken at St. Helier airfield in Jersey. The Struck Off Charge date for K6996 is 20 June 1940, so it could have been lost on this date or earlier.
.
Faenor, the Hurricane in the photo you found is interesting. 501 Squadron left Jersey on June 20th. While their ORB does not mention the Harrow or any of their Hurricanes left behind it seems they did leave at least one. Peter Cornwell in his 'THE BATTLE OF FRANCE, THEN AND NOW' records they abandoned Hurricane P3347 at St. Helier and possibly others. As the new photo shows both aircraft burnt out this could have been carried out by the British just before evacuation.
.
Air-Britain in 'THE K FILE' and 'AEROMILITARIA', autumn 2006 issue has the same service history and fate based on the Form 78 aircraft history card in both works. I strongly caution against their use of the letter 'N' for this Harrow however. It appears to be based on a photo of a Harrow 'N' on page 111 of the 'AEROMILITARIA' issue and which they state to be K6996.
I cannot read the serial in the photo but it seems to be a photo taken after 1940. There appears to be a Hawker Typhoon with a Sky fuselage band in the background. The Harrow also has the name 'Sparrow' on the nose, which again I believe was used post-1940. Maybe someone has a better copy of this photo ? Should it actually show K6996 then of course we are looking for a new serial for the burnt Harrow photos !
.
I cannot find an AIR 81 casualty file for this Harrow loss, indicating there were no personnel casualties. No Form 1180 accident card either.
.
I hope we can sort this little mystery out.
.
Regards,
.
Martin Gleeson.

Hi all, probably same plane - Harrow :

https://www.ebay.de/itm/C135-Foto-We...YAAOSw9MReTurr
https://www.ebay.de/itm/C137-Foto-We...75.c100623.m-1

Faenor

edwest2 22nd February 2020 02:04

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  1. https://www.ebay.de/itm/14-02-Foto-F...4AAOSwm1deR~bW
  2. https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-2-WK-Br...kAAOSwSUxeT8DA
  3. https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-2-WK-Fl...MAAOSweP9eT8C1

Bertrand H 22nd February 2020 10:22

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tnx Ed.

#952 link 5 : UXoU, P4903 of 82 SQ lost on 17/05/40

bertrand

edwest2 22nd February 2020 21:37

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You're welcome Bertrand.

edwest2 23rd February 2020 04:52

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  1. https://www.ebay.de/itm/WK-2-Fotos-F...kAAOSwC-5eUGpf
  2. https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Wehrmac...cAAOSwZwleUXDl
  3. https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-franzos...QAAOSw705da7nV
  4. https://www.ebay.de/itm/3-x-Foto-Wk2...IAAOSwHnpeUQfi
  5. Book
  6. https://www.ebay.de/itm/Unter-Rotem-...wAAOSwZGNeUa9n

edwest2 23rd February 2020 21:24

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  1. https://www.ebay.de/itm/org-Foto-Fra...YAAOSw3nNeUozz
  2. https://www.ebay.de/itm/e26-Frankrei...UAAOSwPMZeUmkb
  3. https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-litauis...kAAOSwTYZeT-MR

Snautzer 24th February 2020 12:14

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https://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-B-17-C...0AAOSwtN9eUzvp


http://www.americanairmuseum.com/mission/810



https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/0Z0AA...vp/s-l1600.jpg

Snautzer 24th February 2020 12:14

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https://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-B-17-C...cAAOSwKFNeUzs~


https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/NwcAA...s~/s-l1600.jpg


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