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SES 25th October 2012 14:21

Re: He 219 found in Denmark !!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcel Hogenhuis (Post 156879)
Hello Kim

I believe that it was Spant no.31, see He219 Handbuch Teil 0, page 14. Spant no.31 has the circular hole for the Kärcher heater and on the rear side - as seen through the opened inspection hatch - this triangular ID plate was attached. That part and the rest of the tail section of 'your' He219 is missing.
Looking forward to hear from you! All the best, Marcel

Please also see post #44 (by Marcel :wink:).
bregds
SES

Tony Kambic 25th October 2012 15:12

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Kim,

As both Marcel and SES indicated, it is on tail side of fuselage frame 31. In the He-219 cutaway someone provided in an eariler post, it is line item 119 ( Fuselage Frame No 31 ). You can see the Karcher opening near the bottom center. I have finally reduced and converted the other image I obtained which will show better where the plate is attached.

In the image, taken from the rear and under the fuselage looking forward, some maintenance cover panel has been removed to expose the plate. Further up the fueslage is the access opening for the radar components and Schrage Muzik cannons.

Tony

RT 25th October 2012 16:32

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Muzik, Mujik ??

Is there some slave there to move the gun ??

Rémi

Marcel Hogenhuis 25th October 2012 17:15

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Bonjour Remi,

These were fixed guns and one needs a German body builder to move these during flight, that's why the A-5 version was produced in series (if somebody still should believe that despite the evidence of the contrary, there ever were large numbers of A-5).

Michael: l'histoire se répète, even in our postings...(:-)

Ciao, Marcel

SES 25th October 2012 17:28

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Yes as it says in the movie:"In all this confusion I kind of lost track myself".
bregds
SES

Kim Christiansen 25th October 2012 21:49

Re: He 219 found in Denmark !!!
 
Hello All

Thank you for yours response.


Is there any dimension avaible of Spant No.31?

Please see attached photo.


Regarding the catapult seat, what I thought about was, if there were any registration of rescues from fighting etc,
where the catapult was used, maybe some registration because it was a new technology and it was still under development.

Sincerely,
Kim Christiansen

Marcel Hogenhuis 25th October 2012 22:36

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Hello Kim

Now I understand: yes, there have been several rescues with the ejection seats. As I am now at the weekly rehearsal evening with the Royal Fanfare in Venlo, I will answer tomorrow.

All the best, Marcel

Marcel Hogenhuis 26th October 2012 11:40

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Hello Kim,

The thickness and more oval shape of the Spant as shown on your picture, suggests that this Spant was somewhere between Spant 31 and 33, leaving Spant 31a or 32 as the best options. See enclosed picture. The thickness of the recovered spant would be logical there, because it had to endure the forces of the empenage/tail section.

Cleaning of your Spant will show (I think) that it does not have that triangular ID plate (unfortunately!).

All the best, Marcel

edNorth 26th October 2012 12:23

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Hello,

I am not in possesion if He 219 DB 603 engine manual, but is this not "engine-armour" (plate) in front of motor? Seems be rather rusty to be of aluminum ... but it seems smaller than item (and them holes) visible in this picture taken from NASM by "mike.kukavica" found at Flickr.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/mikekuk...n/photostream/ In case it does not show to TOCH readers on Flickr.com , the attached image (below) is this cut from same picture as in the link abowe. The arrow points to item in question.

Best regards
ed

SES 26th October 2012 12:32

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Hi,
I tend to agree with ed. The plate looks way too thick to be a Spant. It would also be odd to have 31a/32 but not 30, since the entire tail section is missing.
bregds
SES


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