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Marc-André Haldimann 16th June 2012 09:27

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 
There is a technical glitch and can't edit the previous post...

I just wished to add all my thanks in advance
Marc

Nick Beale 17th June 2012 17:02

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This one http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...7625539886908/ is another case of a red spot on a white fuselage band, followed by a wave marking = IV./JG 3 in summer/autumn 1943.

This suggests that it could be one or other of the two such "black 3" found in Southern Italy:
Bf 109 G-6, W.Nr. 18512, Black 3 + red spot and “wave” (previous marking SI+UY) found at Foggia main aerodrome.

Bf 109 G-6, W.Nr. 19461,Black 3 + red spot and “wave” found at Lecce/San Donato.
The only question mark for me would be the white outline to the "3" which is not mentioned in the reports from Italy.

veltro 17th June 2012 17:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Marc-André Haldimann (Post 149654)
I'm currently carrying out, a huge cleaning sorting of my Flickr account in order to flush out all remaining pictures without a proper legend. (...)

Certainly mine is an useless question, but maybe my English simply isn't good enough to understand properly... Marc, when you wrote "...to flush out all remaining pictures", you didn't mean "to delete" them, but simply to move them to a section devoted to the (yet) unidentified images, didn't you?

Just to understand and for my peace of mind... thanks.

Marc-André Haldimann 17th June 2012 19:15

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 
Caro Ferdinando,

You got me right! My work those last two days was to sort out through all pictures I've uploaded; I've deleted all the ones who were uploaded twice from two different sources, and I've done a real effort to give minimal legends to all remaining pictures.

I've also checked a fair amount - but not all yet! - of pictures found on the net against the publications of my library, in order to give a precise anchoring for any researcher.

Still some work to go through, but I'm in a time issue toward two archaeological publications, so this won't be finished before...August.

Tanti saluti
Marc

unikum 18th July 2012 18:38

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 
Ebayi.com
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Jagdflugzeug-...item1c294d9776

Marc-André Haldimann 18th July 2012 19:05

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 
Thanks Unikum!

Am currently travelling and cannot open the picture. Could you upload it? Many thanks in advance

Marc

Nick Beale 19th July 2012 11:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by veltro (Post 149739)
...maybe my English simply isn't good enough to understand properly...

Well, in my experience of it, it's better than many English people seem to manage!

Marc-André Haldimann 31st July 2012 19:11

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 
Hi there Gang,

I've just uploaded two pictures of a Bf 109 G from an unknown unit, found derelict at Brussels Melsbroek in late September 1944.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...in/photostream
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...in/photostream

This machine sports a very dark two tones camouflage which brings us back on other, later - mainly Erla built - Bf 109 G-10 in the W.Nr. 150'000 - 152'000 range. For 1944, I'm not aware of any Bf 109 camouflaged in such dark color beyond the lone Bf 109 G-6/AS "Grüne 5", piloted by Oblt. Manfred Dieterle, 2./Erg. JG 2, at Ludwigslust, in December 1944.

Does one of you guys have informations on any other Bf 109 G camouflaged in such dark hues in August or early September 1944? As for this particular machine, I would be grateful for any other information, especially it's unit and subtype.

Thanks in advance
Marc

ouidjat 1st August 2012 07:31

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Hi there gang's boss!

I am going to say a stupid thing :o but the following one is in same range and it's a Schwarze 7 too. Of course the mountains in background don't make us think to Belgium; whatever ...
And I didn't say it's the same plane; just an element of possible answer.
http://www.me109.info/display.php?a=e&fid=7174
JG 27 sounds strange with that similingly Yellow band.
Cpt Farrels did make a profile of a G-10, "Schwarze 13" displaying such dark (two tones) camouflage and such yellow band talking about a JG 11 aircraft.

Cheers, Franck.

Falcon 1st August 2012 08:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ouidjat (Post 152279)
Hi there gang's boss!

I am going to say a stupid thing :o but the following one is in same range and it's a Schwarze 7 too. Of course the mountains in background don't make us think to Belgium; whatever ...
And I didn't say it's the same plane; just an element of possible answer.
http://www.me109.info/display.php?a=e&fid=7174
JG 27 sounds strange with that similingly Yellow band.
Cpt Farrels did make a profile of a G-10, "Schwarze 13" displaying such dark (two tones) camouflage and such yellow band talking about a JG 11 aircraft.

Cheers, Franck.

Thats my source, Franck:
http://s1224.photobucket.com/profile/ASYLUM_thirteen

A nice collection of G-10 photos from different sources. Its like Marcs collection. :)

Tschöö,
David


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