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Richard Aigner 8th September 2019 20:18

Re: Crash-site location of 13 Stukas?
 
Eisenbach & Dauselt, "Der Einsatz deutscher Sturzkampfflugzeuge gegen Polen, Frankreich und England 1939 und 1940", p. 22, has a photo showing wreckage of one of the crashed Ju87s. Pictured is a fin/rudder (surprisingly intact), part of a horizontal tailplane, and parts of 2 u/c legs. Photo from Eisenbach collection.
HTH, Richard

Col Bruggy 10th September 2019 10:41

Re: Crash-site location of 13 Stukas?
 
Hello,

I can remember (many moons ago), reading an account of the Stuka incident at Neuhammer in the following book:

The Luftwaffe War Diaries.
Bekker,Cajus
London:Macdonald,1968 (2nd imp.)
pp.42-3

Col.

Adriano Baumgartner 10th September 2019 15:34

Re: Crash-site location of 13 Stukas?
 
Hello,

Maybe those are the pictures you mentioned:
https://bobrzanie.pl/2012/05/14/kata...-swietoszowie/

Baumgartner

Horst Weber 10th September 2019 19:18

Re: Crash-site location of 13 Stukas?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Col Bruggy (Post 274405)
Hello,

I can remember (many moons ago), reading an account of the Stuka incident at Neuhammer in the following book:

The Luftwaffe War Diaries.
Bekker,Cajus
London:Macdonald,1968 (2nd imp.)
pp.42-3

Col.

Good evening !

You may gain some additional information about the incident in the book of Helmut Mahlke on pages 41 - 42.
The book's title is:
Mahlke, Helmut,
Stuka: Angriff: Sturzflug.
1993 by Verlag E. S. Mittler & Sohn GmbH, Herford
ISBN 3-8132-0425-1

Best wishes !

Horst Weber

egbert 11th September 2019 10:31

Re: Crash-site location of 13 Stukas?
 
Pictures:

https://polska-org.pl/5622466,Swieto...rs_Ju_87B.html


Text:

https://www.wikizero.com/de/Neuhammer_Stuka-Unglück

rof120 11th September 2019 15:41

Re: Crash-site location of 13 Stukas?
 
Just a rather unimportant detail: I don't think a relatively intact fin after a bad crash is surprising. You can see this very often on photographs and in TV reports etc. The explanation is that in most cases where aircraft were/are smashed to smithereens they crash nose/engine first, tail and fin last, the tailplane often being severed (separeted from the rest) by the terrible shock. Being much lighter than other parts like engine, guns, landing gear etc. the tailplane has much less kinetic energy and in many cases it just falls off or flies a short distance away. This is still valid today from light turism propeller aircraft to the latest combat AC.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard Aigner (Post 274357)
Eisenbach & Dauselt, "Der Einsatz deutscher Sturzkampfflugzeuge gegen Polen, Frankreich und England 1939 und 1940", p. 22, has a photo showing wreckage of one of the crashed Ju87s. Pictured is a fin/rudder (surprisingly intact), part of a horizontal tailplane, and parts of 2 u/c legs. Photo from Eisenbach collection.
HTH, Richard


Richard Aigner 11th September 2019 21:01

Re: Crash-site location of 13 Stukas?
 
att. Adriano Baumgartner, post nr. 23:
Yes, the photo in the book is the first one in the link you posted. The second photo is not in the book.
Richard


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