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Sergio Luis dos Santos 16th July 2005 06:02

Re: Luftwaffe POWs in Russia
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael Chorney
Apology in advance. In running out of my office and hurriedly posting, I made mention of a thread (Fred Arnold topic) which should have been a referral to that found on the history channel website, not that found on this discussion board which was started by Mr. Horta and which posed a legitimate question. This was a mistake on my part.

Michael I can understand someone may feel bitter with those questions but we are facing this very same dilema here in Brasil. A pilot is placing on paper his recollections as a Luftwaffe fighter pilot but I could not confirm till now he was a pilot in the unit he mentions...

John Manrho 16th July 2005 11:37

Re: Luftwaffe POWs in Russia
 
To Mr. Michael Chorney: We will wait for the evidence of Mr. Dulias. Documents or statements on his military career are the most important factors. Which unit (Staffel, Gruppe) did he belong to, does he remember comerades, etc. Especially anything on paper would help. Scans can be posted here. Again, the answer is probably in Berlin (WASt).

To Sergio; be careful, a few years ago I stumbled on a ground crew member of JG 6. I have sufficient documents concerning his military career. When I found him I called him and also spoke to his younger wife (married after the war) and was surprised to learn he told his wife that he was a pilot in ZG 26, JG 26 and JG 6. All definetely not true.......

Michael Chorney 16th July 2005 15:49

Re: POWs in Russia and Mr. Dulias
 
Dear Gentlemen: I alerted Gottfried Dulias to the concerns raised on this thread. He responded quickly with a lengthy missive and is very interested in communicating with members of this site. I suggested, however, that he first read the material presented here so that he can provide a more focused and pithy response to the specific raised flags. Moreover, he will need to register to reply. I suspect, however, that what will be required to satisfy John and others will indeed be a deeper search into records. As this site is focused on history, and needless to say, veracity, this is the necessary course. I agree. What I hope can result is a meaningful and fruitful communication with Gottfried, who is very willing to respond to the best of his ability.

With respect to Sergio, bitter, my goodness, far from it. As I said, I am involved with hosting guest speakers at the airshow. During my preparative work of seeking lecturers, I have unfortunately run into a number of Luftwaffe imposters, whose ruse is apparently easier to maintain because of occassionally scanty records from their service years. The most recent was a fellow who claimed to have flown with NJG1, NJG6, and JG27. He came complete with a Luftwaffe business card, and claimed 50 kills, quickly dissipating his story. My motto, apropos to history, is that of Yale: lux et veritas.

All the best and cheers, Mike

Kutscha 16th July 2005 17:18

Re: Luftwaffe POWs in Russia
 
Does anyone have info on the loss of a Spitfire flown by a Lt Fred Browning in Aug/Sept 1944?

One would think that there would have been other I-16s shot down, any claims reported for I-16s in late 44/early 45?

Ruy Horta 16th July 2005 17:33

Re: Luftwaffe POWs in Russia
 
Kind of messy thread, I hope this is the right content for the split?

John Manrho 16th July 2005 19:00

Re: Luftwaffe POWs in Russia
 
Just add Kutscha's reply concerning Lt. Fred Browning to the Dulias thread and then it is fine.

Kutscha 16th July 2005 19:05

Re: Luftwaffe POWs in Russia
 
John, already asked Ruy, via PM, to put it in this thread.

Ruy Horta 16th July 2005 20:40

Re: Gottfried Dulias
 
Okay, I hope this is it :)

Michael Chorney 21st July 2005 22:59

Re: Gottfried Dulias
 
Gentlemen: Mr. Dulias e-mailed me earlier this week to convey his decision to neither visit this website nor to respond to the questions posed within this thread, which I put forward to him. Too bad that a dialogue could not be established and that it had to end at loggerheads, although it is his view that such an exchange would not be fruitful, and he is most probably correct. His book is published by AuthorHouse, 1663 Liberty Drive, Suite 200, Bloomington, Indiana, 47403, should you wish to contact him via his publisher.

Cheers, Mike

David Ransome 22nd July 2005 22:14

Re: Gottfried Dulias
 
Hi,

It's a great pity that something couldn't have been put forward to 'knock this on the head' and close the thread positively.

If you go to www.authorhouse.com (there is a UK site too) and search for key words Gottfried Dulias you will find purchase details for the book and a short excerpt regarding GD's capture and how he had to hand over his Luger and get rid of a photo of himself in civvies wearing a Party badge. Not the best of positions to be in?

Regards,

David


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