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barkas 3rd March 2010 18:11

Re: D-Day Ju 87 massacre
 
Hi all,
I´m sorry I only quoted original RL 2 III / 779 Flugzeugunfälle und Verluste bei Schulen und sonstige Verbänden (01.05.44-15.07.44) with original Stuka version.
Gismo, if you need crewmember names, write me privat message.

thenelm 8th March 2010 01:24

Re: D-Day Ju 87 massacre
 
As reported-

Ju 87C-3, 1289, Uhlhaas, Ofw. (F)/Gottschalk, Ofw. (Bf), , Einsatz.St., SG 103, , , , , 06-Jun-44, Both WIA due to enemy fire. Crashed., , Lfl.3, BA-MA Signatur RL 2 III/779, p.105, , Voves, 80%, F, , ,
Ju 87C, 1214, Rüchenschütte, Uffz. (F)/Schröder, Ogefr. (Bf), , Einsatz.St., SG 103, , , , , 06-Jun-44, KIA due to enemy fire. Bf WIA. Crashed., , Lfl.3, BA-MA Signatur RL 2 III/779, p.105, , Voves, 100%, F, , ,
Ju 87C-4, 1194, Kather, Ofw. (Bf), , Einsatz.St., SG 103, , , , , 06-Jun-44, WIA due to enemy fire. Notlandung., , Lfl.3, BA-MA Signatur RL 2 III/779, p.105, , Voves, 60%, F, , ,
Ju 87B-6, 2196, Rachau, Ofw. (F)/Micke, Ofw. (Bf), , Einsatz.St., SG 103, , , , , 06-Jun-44, WIA due to enemy fire. Bf KIA. Crashed., , Lfl.3, BA-MA Signatur RL 2 III/779, p.105, , Voves, 100%, F, , ,
Ju 87V-3, 7868, Skupin, Oblt. (F)/John, Ofw. (Bf), , Einsatz.St., SG 103, , , , , 06-Jun-44, KIA due to enemy fire. Bf WIA. Notlandung., , Lfl.3, BA-MA Signatur RL 2 III/779, p.105, , Voves, 65%, F, , ,
Ju 87H-6, , Marschering, Ofw. (Bf), , Einsatz.St., SG 103, , , , , 06-Jun-44, WIA due to enemy fire. Notlandung., , Lfl.3, BA-MA Signatur RL 2 III/779, p.105, , Voves, 40%, F, , ,
Ju 87C-4, 2094, Wirner, Ofw. (F)/Steyer, Uffz. (Bf), , Einsatz.St., SG 103, , , , , 06-Jun-44, Both WIA due to enemy fire. Notlandung., , Lfl.3, BA-MA Signatur RL 2 III/779, p.105, , Voves, 60%, F, , ,
Ju 87A-3, 2653, Klunth, Ofw. (F)/Rumpler, Ofw. (Bf), , Einsatz.St., SG 103, , , , , 06-Jun-44, Both WIA due to enemy fire. Crashed., , Lfl.3, BA-MA Signatur RL 2 III/779, p.105, , Voves, 100%, F, , ,
Ju 87, 1247, Genrich, Ofw. (F)/Ochmanik, Ofw. (Bf), , Einsatz.St., SG 103, , , , , 06-Jun-44, Both MIA due to enemy fire., , Lfl.3, BA-MA Signatur RL 2 III/779, p.105, , Voves, 100%, F, , ,
Ju 87, 5621, Rauh, Gefr. Gerhard, , II., SG 102, , , , , 06-Jun-44, Killed in crash due to pilot error., , Lfl.Reich, BA-MA Signatur RL 2 III/779, p.90, , bei Deutschbrod, 90%, H, , ,

brewerjerry 8th March 2010 06:21

Re: D-Day Ju 87 massacre
 
Hi
Thanks for posting the info.
cheers
Jerry

gogh 9th March 2010 00:50

Re: D-Day Ju 87 massacre
 
sorry to quick on the keyboard

regards

Peter van Gogh

Dénes Bernád 9th March 2010 21:25

Re: D-Day Ju 87 massacre
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thenelm (Post 103010)
Ju 87, 5621, Rauh, Gefr. Gerhard, , II., SG 102, , , , , 06-Jun-44, Killed in crash due to pilot error., , Lfl.Reich, BA-MA Signatur RL 2 III/779, p.90, , bei Deutschbrod, 90%, H, , ,

This last crash didn't happen in Western Europe, but rather in the Protektorat, in Central Europe.

thenelm 16th March 2010 01:55

Re: D-Day Ju 87 massacre
 
You are correct - just did a batch post from my db based on date.

Ian Jewison 5th June 2011 02:09

Re: D-Day Ju 87 massacre
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thenelm (Post 103010)
Ju 87C-4, 1194, Kather, Ofw. (Bf), , Einsatz.St., SG 103, , , , , 06-Jun-44, WIA due to enemy fire. Notlandung., , Lfl.3, BA-MA Signatur RL 2 III/779, p.105, , Voves, 60%, F, , ,

An old thread but I came across this as I am currently researching Obfw. Ernst Kather DKiG.
I have Herr Kather's Leistungsbücher, his last Feindflug (No. 381) was on 6.6.1944 as a member of II/S.G. 103. From the info posted by "thenelm" I see he was attached to the Einsatz Staffel.
Interstingly he took off from Metz-Frescaty at 19:30 on that evening and he reports seeing in excess of 30 Mustangs and after about 5 minutes of combat at 21:00 was shot down over Auneau en Eure-et-Loir.

Does anyone know who the pilot was on this day?

Of course the Leistungsbuch, unlike the Flugbuch does not record the pilot or any ID marks of the aircraft.

Throughout the war, well from the first combat mission on 1.9.1939 at 04:26 until 16.10.1943 he flew as the Bordfunker Bruno Dilley EL. October 1943 was when Herr Dilley took over command of S.G. 103.

So, was Bruno Dilley the pilot of this Ju87 on this day?

Thanks for your assistance.
Ian


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