Re: Bf 109G-10 130xxx Batch
 

Hello guys,

unfortunately there might be some problems with G10/AS at Jagdgeschwader 1. All G-10 reported in III./JG 1 NVM are regular Erla G-10 only, no /AS or /R6.

There are two mistakes in the reports, one is Woitkes loss in a G14. Interestingly Woitkes loss was not reported from III. Gruppe, but from the Geschwader itself. We can assume, that the Geschwder did not own the Lebenslaufakte of the a/c. This is perhaps the reason for misinterpreting a G10 as a G-14 (IMHO no hint for a G10/AS).

The other error ist the loss of a G10, WNr. 785.080, which actually was a G14/AS. It crashed on a delivery flight from Regensburg to Rheine. And here we also can assume, that the Lebenslaufakte had not yet arrived at the Gruppe.

So we still have only that handfull of G10/AS at III./JG 300. They all are from a early batch of G10s with acceptance flight between 20. Oct. and
1. Dec. 1944.

Carl

Bf 109 G-10 130 xxx Batch
 

Hello Carl

Many thanks for your patience and explanations regarding the JG 1 aircraft. It would thus appear that the most reasonable position to take with these purported Bf 109 G-10/AS fighters is that they were normal DB 605 D powered aircraft and that the loss list in the volume cited reflects the then current belief at the time of publication that all Erla built Bf 109 G-10 fighters were DB 605 AS powered. I will admit that this topic was something I always wished to have discussed with those knowledgeable in the field of late war Bf 109 fighters. Many thanks to you and D'Amico as well as Rasmussen for all your help.

Horrido!

Leo

Re: Bf 109G-10 130xxx Batch
 

Leo,

Thanks for posting the JG 27 G-10 loss information. Most appreciated! Interesting that 15./JG 27 used a mix of Mtt-Reg and Erla (early) batches of Bf 109G-10's.

Re: Bf 109G-10 130xxx Batch
 

Was wondering if anybody has any photos of Bartels G-10 after it was found in 1964. Would be most appreciated.

Re: Bf 109G-10 130xxx Batch
 

Dears,

I looking for more detais like photos of similar aircrafts photos from the same batch of Bf109 G-10 with Werk Numer -'' ... -- 490000 – 490800 ~ Erla G-10 - many were fitted with DB 605/AS. ....'
First serie of Bf109G-10 Erla with Werk Nr.: 490130-490399 was sent to units in Sep.-Oct.1944.
For me is interesting aricraft with Werk Numer: 490362 which belong to Haupt: Günter Rabeler from 2./JG3 (Stab I) (info.1945) - so moust similar numbers from Erla can be possible similar (?) - it seems to me.

Is here Charles Bavaroise the same from link beside ? ( from: http://www.lwag.org/forums/archive/i...hp/t-1249.html )

If this person is still here on the FORUM - I would like to ask about contact on prive e-mail:
Huball25@poczta.fm

Maybe some body of You have list some of aircrafts from Erla with batch: 490130---490399 ???
To which units was sent each aircraft , pilots , etc....

Best regards,
Kris

Re: Bf 109G-10 130xxx Batch
 

Kris, forgive me if I may look nitpicking, but the quote you are making was from a post at the start of this thread, one year ago.

It seemed to me that during the rest of the thread we had cleared that such a statement wasn't correct. In reality, from what can be ascertained from Erla sources, only about fifty G-10s received the DB 605AS on the production line, due to shortages of the supply of DB 605D.

Thus, in my view (and not only mine), the statement quoted is incorrect, and quoting it looks incorrect as well.

I know, it still looks nitpicking, but that's how inaccurate info does spread, IMHO.

Re: Bf 109G-10 130xxx Batch
 

Ok, I just opended new post.
(With ref. to this one)