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ouidjat 28th April 2014 17:38

Re: Sütterlin challenge
 
AH! Indeed, I forgot it! Thanks Marc.

ouidjat 29th April 2014 03:19

Re: Sütterlin challenge
 
Hi Guys,

We have one Lt. Herbert Garten of 1./NAGr. 2 (9 victories, all in 1944) Observer operationnal clasp. DK-G and EK 1 & 2. Kracker adds Fw189!!!! (sic).

Most probably the same, though that Fw189 story is confusing.

Regards, Franck.

Pawel Burchard 29th April 2014 09:34

Re: Sütterlin challenge
 
http://www.ww2.dk/oob/bestand/aufkl/b4ag10.html

ouidjat 29th April 2014 09:43

Re: Sütterlin challenge
 
And???

NAGr.2 is not 4.(H)/10, specially in 1943/1944. And Garten start to be cited in 1944. Cf Kracker, though it's not necessarily complete.
And no Fw189 in 1./NAGr. 2
http://www.ww2.dk/oob/bestand/aufkl/b1nagr2.html

Pawel Burchard 29th April 2014 09:53

Re: Sütterlin challenge
 
It is noted that 4./10 became 1./2 in 2.43. So it is possible that Garten flew Fw 189s with 4./10 previously - just the speculation and possible explanation :)

p.

Marc-André Haldimann 29th April 2014 09:57

Re: Sütterlin challenge
 
I think Pawel is correct. This would also explain who a Fw 189 is among the pics on auction... I start to think all those pics were in the former estate of Lt Herbert Garten...

Cheers
Marc

ouidjat 29th April 2014 12:15

Re: Sütterlin challenge
 
Yes, it's possible ...
But Kracker doesn't list 4.(H)/10 in his duty experience and just point Garten in SU starting from 1/1944. Not much more.
Last, I Wonder where (and how) they got he flew Fw189 if they just got he was in 1./NAGr. 2. Their source(s) - whatever source(s) his(are) - obviously mixed two different things.

Last, yes, one picture displays a Fw 189 ... and others display Ju 52s ... Did he flew them too???


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