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peter.r 5th June 2014 10:53

Re: Is there a list of ships sunk by the Luftwaffe?
 
Hi Paul, the book I mentioned is in two parts, part one is Royal navy losses and part two is merchant vessels. peter.r

James A Pratt III 5th June 2014 22:25

Re: Is there a list of ships sunk by the Luftwaffe?
 
Besides the above mentioned sources there are articals in Warship magazine on WW II/GPW era Soviet warships that do mention their losses and damage. I think they also have an article on the Rumanian navy during this period.

Paul Thompson 6th June 2014 00:05

Re: Is there a list of ships sunk by the Luftwaffe?
 
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Originally Posted by peter.r (Post 185418)
Hi Paul, the book I mentioned is in two parts, part one is Royal navy losses and part two is merchant vessels. peter.r

peter.r,

Thank you for the elaboration, I will look up part one.

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Originally Posted by James A Pratt III (Post 185441)
Besides the above mentioned sources there are articals in Warship magazine on WW II/GPW era Soviet warships that do mention their losses and damage. I think they also have an article on the Rumanian navy during this period.

Hello James,

That's a very good source. I've located the index for the issues of Warship up to the year 2012 online. A brief search has turned up the following four relevant articles:
1994 - The Soviet Cruisers of the Chapayev and Sverdlov Classes, by V V Jarovoj and René Grege
2001-2 - The Royal Romanian Navy at War, 1941-1944, by Pierre Hervieux
2008 - The Soviet Project 7/7U Destroyers, by Vladimir Yakubov and Richard Worth
2009 - The Soviet Light Cruisers of the Kirov cClass, by Vladimir Yakubov and Richard Worth

Would you mind pointing out some more that I may have missed? Can you also list a couple of the books about RAF torpedo bomber operations that you mentioned in the other thread?

Regards,

Paul

mjbollinger 7th June 2014 04:30

Re: Is there a list of ships sunk by the Luftwaffe?
 
The Soviets published a multi-volume report on ship losses and damage during WWII. It is very complete, covering merchant ships and warships. A few copies are available (in Russian). It details losses by theater and by day. Extremely detailed.

Paul Thompson 7th June 2014 15:29

Re: Is there a list of ships sunk by the Luftwaffe?
 
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Originally Posted by mjbollinger (Post 185484)
The Soviets published a multi-volume report on ship losses and damage during WWII. It is very complete, covering merchant ships and warships. A few copies are available (in Russian). It details losses by theater and by day. Extremely detailed.

mjbollinger,

Thank you for making me aware of the source. Would you mind providing the title and publication details?

I have sent you a private message.

Regards,

Paul

James A Pratt III 7th June 2014 21:04

Re: Is there a list of ships sunk by the Luftwaffe?
 
Glad to be of help. Here are some books that deal with RAF torpedo bomber and anti-shipping operations:
Torpedo Bomber/ The Ship Busters Ralph Barker
The Strike Wings Roy C Nesbit
Armed Rovers " "
Torpedo Airmen " "
A Separate little War Andrew Bird
A Forgotten Offensive Christina J.M. Goulter

Paul Thompson 7th June 2014 22:49

Re: Is there a list of ships sunk by the Luftwaffe?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by James A Pratt III (Post 185507)
Glad to be of help. Here are some books that deal with RAF torpedo bomber and anti-shipping operations:
Torpedo Bomber/ The Ship Busters Ralph Barker
The Strike Wings Roy C Nesbit
Armed Rovers " "
Torpedo Airmen " "
A Separate little War Andrew Bird
A Forgotten Offensive Christina J.M. Goulter

James, thank you for the set of sources. I will look up the new Stackpole edition of "The Ship Busters", since I have at least broswed all the others. In the process of finding that edition, I've chanced upon an interesting blog by someone who's read a few works on Coastal Command - aircrewbookreview.blogspot.com.

Regards,

Paul

Frank Olynyk 8th June 2014 05:07

Re: Is there a list of ships sunk by the Luftwaffe?
 
Paul,
May I add to the list of references the books of Chris Shores? First, the two volumes published so far of A History of the Mediterranean Air War, which cover the period of June 1940 to March 1943 in North Africa. These cover operations from Northeast Africa, and should cover all sinkings by aircraft of the British, Italian, German and American forces in this period. The period of November 1942 to May 1943 will be covered in volume three, work on which has just started.

Operations from Malta are covered in the earlier Malta: The Hurricane Years (1940 to 1941), and Malta: The Spitfire Year (1942). Further operations from Malta will appear in forthcoming volumes of Mediterranean Air War. The former is out of print, but used copies are not hard to find. The latter has just been reprinted.

The earlier Air War for Yugoslavia, Greece and Crete 1940-41 also has details of ship losses to aircraft, with appendices listing the losses. Additional research in this area has been done by others, so these lists may be incomplete. This one is also out of print, and seems to be just a little expensive.

Hope this helps.

Frank.
co-author of the MAW series.

Nick Beale 8th June 2014 10:22

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Here are a few losses to be going on with, taken from my Kampfflieger Vol. 4 (and originally from Admiralty files in the National Archives).

Paul Thompson 8th June 2014 14:11

Re: Is there a list of ships sunk by the Luftwaffe?
 
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Originally Posted by Frank Olynyk (Post 185516)
Paul,
May I add to the list of references the books of Chris Shores?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank Olynyk (Post 185516)
The earlier Air War for Yugoslavia, Greece and Crete 1940-41 also has details of ship losses to aircraft, with appendices listing the losses. Additional research in this area has been done by others, so these lists may be incomplete. This one is also out of print, and seems to be just a little expensive.

Hope this helps.

Frank.
co-author of the MAW series.

Frank,

It is a pleasure to have you contribute to the thread too! I am lucky in that I have all the books you listed, apart from "Spitfires", so I have plenty to work with. Now to find the time for it all! Once I am able extract the relevant data from the books, the gaps should be reasonably easy to fill through forums, since specifics of individual incidents can usually be found with the appropriate background knowledge.

I have sent you a private message on an issue related to this subject.

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Originally Posted by Nick Beale (Post 185526)
Here are a few losses to be going on with, taken from my Kampfflieger Vol. 4 (and originally from Admiralty files in the National Archives).

Nick,

Thank you very much, having the convoys specified helps too. Speaking of individual incidents, I was able to find a very interesting TOCH thread from last year by searching for CAF 31 - http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showthread.php?t=33819. Some posts from this forum should be edited into a reference work :)

Regards,

Paul


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