Re: Luftwaffe loss night 2/3rd July 1944 in Normandy
 

Thanks Matti
Stig

Re: Luftwaffe loss night 2/3rd July 1944 in Normandy
 

188 Solved also the problem of the crew of five..

Rémi

Re: Luftwaffe loss night 2/3rd July 1944 in Normandy
 

Stig,

Recheck the case. The NVM was written by I/KG 6 and it shows the crew also from I/KG 6. I have no idea, why Jan Horn is saying II/KG 6 and where he has found that info.

Matti

Re: Luftwaffe loss night 2/3rd July 1944 in Normandy
 

Thanks again Matti

Johann 'Hans' Mader was Kommandeur of II./KG 6 at this point.
In the main text Jan Horn makes it clear he was flying an aircraft if I./KG 6 during the night he was lost. Hans seems to have been his nickname al through his career (see Ritterkreuzträger der Kampflieger)

Looking in Zeng/Stankey's Bomber Units book they put forth he was temporarily acting as Kommandeur of that unit as well which means that Mader in practice was in command of both I. and II./KG 6 at the same time.

I didn't realise this until now since neither authors seems to 100% realise this either in their books. My apologies Matti, I should have looked closer the first time, but my aviation interests and other commitments makes time rather precious....:o

So we have an aircraft lost from I./KG 6 and a commander from both I. and II./KG 6. Horn followed Mader's main posting (II./KG 6), hence his reporting of the loss the way he did.

Cheers
Stig

Re: Luftwaffe loss night 2/3rd July 1944 in Normandy
 

Stig, no reason to apologize. I always enjoy your comments and remarks and also quite often learn quite a lot of them. I don't have those Jan Horn's books and now I know a little bit more about KG 6. Thanks.

Matti

Re: Luftwaffe loss night 2/3rd July 1944 in Normandy
 

Thanks Matti

Appreciate your gentle touch :)

Cheers
Stig