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John Vasco 1st April 2016 23:13

Re: What is the "Holy Grail" of Luftwaffe Research
 
For me, I still seek the elusive photograph of Hptm. Walter Rubensdörffer's Bf 110 D-0/B, S9+AB, W. Nr. 3338...

John Vasco 1st April 2016 23:15

Re: What is the "Holy Grail" of Luftwaffe Research
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Coates (Post 216549)
Well, there is at least one collection of photographs owned by an extremely wealthy individual that do not appear destined to see the light of day anytime soon.

Well I wonder what that could be, Steve...

edwest2 1st April 2016 23:29

Re: What is the "Holy Grail" of Luftwaffe Research
 
You know, there are still classified documents held by the British and the Americans. For example, I discovered the US Signal Corps had taken photos of abandoned German equipment. The lesser-known American Counter-Intelligence Corps was looking for scientists and technicians after the war. They sometimes worked with the even more mysterious T-Force, a British creation with which the Americans became involved and adopted their practices. T-Force (T for target) was tasked with capturing equipment, personnel, documents, and even if it was nailed down, moving things out of the country to the US and England. And a recent book based on interviews with T-Force veterans clearly says that a good portion of what they found is still classified. T-Force had the authority to go anywhere and take what they wanted, and with an ID that stated they were not to be interfered with by the Military Police.



Ed

Richard T. Eger 2nd April 2016 02:34

Re: What is the "Holy Grail" of Luftwaffe Research
 
Dear All,

In general, the missing 1944 operational loss reports seem to be the consensus "Holy Grail."

However, for me and Manfred Boehme personally, it would be in finding the Messerschmitt research photos. Specifically, for me it would be photos of the Me 262 HG II. For Manfred, it would be photos of the Me 262B-2.

Regards,
Richard

Dan O'Connell 2nd April 2016 03:45

Re: What is the "Holy Grail" of Luftwaffe Research
 
I'd like to find files with the LAST 250 or so Me 262 WN that I havn't yet found.

ClinA-78 2nd April 2016 10:28

Re: What is the "Holy Grail" of Luftwaffe Research
 
If the Luftwaffe research extends to Luftwaffe crashsites, there are several airmen still missing in my country, who would remain unearthed and forgotten, frustrating. I (we) need at least 3 lifes and the quest will be closed in the coming years because of lack of witnesses.

I sometimes have been lucky to find out the Graal (or a part of): for instance, (small) remains of a Giant Zeppelin Staaken crashed in August 1918.

I plan to publish my "Bible" in 2019. ;)

ClinA-78

Graham Boak 2nd April 2016 12:02

Re: What is the "Holy Grail" of Luftwaffe Research
 
For me, a fuller account of the Arado 240 and the role of the different airframes. Dr. Mankau's work shone much light, but there are still areas uncovered.

Hans Mcilveen 2nd April 2016 12:57

Re: What is the "Holy Grail" of Luftwaffe Research
 
For me it would be a set of clear photographs of the two Arado Ar 196s in Penang. I have seen one or two but they are of poor quality and not very clear.
A photograph showing the FuG 200 radar setup on the same type in the Baltic sea area in 1945 would not hurt either.

Mysticpuma 2nd April 2016 13:15

Re: What is the "Holy Grail" of Luftwaffe Research
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sirbob (Post 216515)
One photo that I have been hoping for has recently been found - a Ju 88G-7. Now the pessimists can see that it did exist, and the optimists will hopefully stop mis-identifying a Ju 88G-6. This illustrates that there are still gems out there to be found.
What I want to find amongst my next ebay search is a clear photo of a Bf 109G-6N(Naxos) in opperational use.

.................Oh yes, and a Bf 109H would be nice.

I found these images in an old magazine I have from 1974....not sure if they are what you are after but thought I'd share just in-case they were accurate G7 images. Apologies if they aren't, cheers, MP

Tony Kambic 2nd April 2016 15:04

Re: What is the "Holy Grail" of Luftwaffe Research
 
One of my 'Holy Grails' would be to locate and identify the wreckage of Col. Gunther Luetzow Me262. I did see a new report (2015) that claims he crashed into the Danube.

Tony


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