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harrison987 16th May 2016 00:19

Re: New Me109 Wreck Discovered. ** Some Graphic Content
 
My two cents...

Fluids are common. I have been involved with a few recoveries and many times coolant and fuel still remains.

These wrecks in the East are not being recovered because they want to "finally give the pilot a burial"....or for "historical purposes".

They are being recovered for money and the VALUE of the wreckage. If these were worth scrap value, no one would be doing it.

If it were not for the collectors in the West...AS WELL as the collectors in the EAST (trust me, there are a lot)...no one would be bothering to recover or dig for these wrecks.

This specific wreck was not really dug "carefully"...I cringed every time the backhoe tore into the fuselage when trying to pull it up.

Everything was done with haste...which is why people are a bit upset.

Already parts from the wreck are being sold for money...

Mike

Rasmussen 16th May 2016 02:57

Re: New Me109 Wreck Discovered. ** Some Graphic Content
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by harrison987 (Post 218374)
Already parts from the wreck are being sold for money...

Where?

VtwinVince 17th May 2016 05:30

Re: New Me109 Wreck Discovered. ** Some Graphic Content
 
Boris, you are a deluded piece of work.

John Beaman 17th May 2016 17:07

Re: New Me109 Wreck Discovered. ** Some Graphic Content
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by VtwinVince (Post 218418)
Boris, you are a deluded piece of work.

Please explain your comment. Personal attacks are not allowed on this board.

harrison987 17th May 2016 17:22

Re: New Me109 Wreck Discovered. ** Some Graphic Content
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by John Beaman (Post 218435)
Please explain your comment. Personal attacks are not allowed on this board.

I assume he is referring to Boris stating that us "Western Collectors" are "all scum"...and are "no different than grave-robbing looters."

:)

Mike

sidney 17th May 2016 17:51

Re: New Me109 Wreck Discovered. ** Some Graphic Content
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by harrison987 (Post 218436)
I assume he is referring to Boris stating that us "Western Collectors" are "all scum"...and are "no different than grave-robbing looters." Mike

Perhaps you can point out to the rest of us where these particular items are being sold on the internet or elsewhere (as per Rasmussen's original query above)? Without providing such evidence, there is really no proof of the foul play here.

Rasmussen 17th May 2016 18:42

Re: New Me109 Wreck Discovered. ** Some Graphic Content
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sidney (Post 218438)
Perhaps you can point out to the rest of us where these particular items are being sold on the internet or elsewhere (as per Rasmussen's original query above)?

I'd suspect you get no response ...

sidney 17th May 2016 21:39

Re: New Me109 Wreck Discovered. ** Some Graphic Content
 
No response is tacit admission of the evidence lacking, so it is all alright...

Perhaps the subject is exhausted now, too bad that potentially interesting thread turned out almost political.

ClinA-78 17th May 2016 22:56

Re: New Me109 Wreck Discovered. ** Some Graphic Content
 
About the greenish color, is the farbbeutel still an hypothesis?

Already seen this color involving wreckage with body (to remain in this grim reality).

ClinA-78

harrison987 17th May 2016 23:45

Re: New Me109 Wreck Discovered. ** Some Graphic Content
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rasmussen (Post 218440)
I'd suspect you get no response ...

Well....The reason why I know why parts being are sold...it because I bought some of them.

I have numerous contacts in Russia, and some of the people on the recovery team kept what the museum did not want.

They then offered the parts for sale on various Russian forums.

I knew about the wreck and acquired the parts before the video was posted online.

I was not in any way saying it was BAD that the parts were being sold. I rather save the parts than have them be thrown out or scrapped.

The StuG III that was pulled from a bog a few years back (see youtube) was taken apart and sold for parts..as a perfect example.

When these Me109 parts were offered, I grabbed them, so they were not sent to the scrapper.

Mike


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