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SES	8th May 2006 23:52

Re: Gefechtsverband Helbig/Hallensleben/Kowalewski

Hi Nobert,
I'm sure they were there, actually for the major part of their existence. Quote from Hoffmann II/1:

"Ab Herbst 1944 befand sich die Nachfolgekommandostelle des Lfl. Kdo. 3, das Lw. Kdo. West, in Dehrn bei Limburg/Lahn und wurde als Nutznießer an die Fernsprech-Reportage angeschlossen".

bregds
SES

Horst Kube

9th May 2006 00:57

Re: Gefechtsverband Helbig/Hallensleben/Kowalewski

Here is a photo of "Halli" Rudolf Hallensleben, 2nd on the left, looking down, during his time with the KG 76 at the Krim war in summer 1942.

Anyway, how come Hallis and Kowalewskis KG 51 involvements, when they were obviously all the time in duty with the KG 76?

Cheers, Horst

Nick Beale

9th May 2006 01:24

Re: Gefechtsverband Helbig/Hallensleben/Kowalewski

Quote:

Originally Posted by Horst Kube

[left]Anyway, how come Hallis and Kowalewskis KG 51 involvements, when they were obviously all the time in duty with the KG 76?

Cheers, Horst

When the need arose, a senior officer and his staff were given command of a number of units operating in a particular area. Hallensleben was KG 2 Kommodore by the time his Gefechtsverband was set up (using the Geschwaderstab). KG 2 itself had been inactive since the bombing of Eindhoven during Operation Market-Garden, September 1944. Read all about it in Kampfflieger Vol. 4 in the Classic Colours series (excuse the advertisement!).

Jaap Woortman

9th May 2006 11:18

Re: Gefechtsverband Helbig/Hallensleben/Kowalewski

Oberstlt. Rudolf Hallensleben was:
Kdore. KG 2 28.07.44 - 19.09.44
GV. Hallensleben 20.09.44 - 31.01.45
Kdore. KG 51 01.02.45 - 21.03.45 as successor of Schenk.

Does someone know at what date Oberst Helbig was wounded in a an attack by a low flying aircraft near Vogelsang(Germany). I think this must have been at September 17th, 1944 or the dat before or after September 17th. He had to spent several months in hospital.

Jaap

SES	12th May 2006 23:42

Re: Gefechtsverband Helbig/Hallensleben/Kowalewski

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norbert Schuchbauer

Hi SES,

the info I have is that on 01. September 1944 they moved the operation to Mayen and resided in the Gymnasium. No reference of Dehrn in the KTB. It is not even mentioned during previous requests by Luftflottenkommando West on the 30. August 1944 to expedite making other locations available for a move well behind the most western German positions. Maybe it never happened or it was a different staff?
Regards,

Norbert

Hi,
If only I had read my Google hits a little more carefully:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dehrn

which resulted in
http://www.gyges.dk/Gefechtsstand%20...%20Lft%203.htm

Nobert thank you very much for the help on Arlon.
bregds
SES

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