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Re: KG 53 night claims

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Originally Posted by kirche (Post 236126)

? Possible Ушаково (Uschakova) 54.740121, 33.470437

Yes, I think you have right!

Re: KG 53 night claims

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Originally Posted by Laurent Rizzotti (Post 235644)

I mixed it with Arnold Döring that also claimed night kills with KG 53 (including 3 TB-3 claimed in one night over Stalingrad, so the "night fighter flights" did not stop in May 1942).

AFAIK, Döring was with 8./KG 55.

Chris

Re: KG 53 night claims

I am currently researching a Flugbuch from one of the Horn crew and it has brought me back to this discussion. I have found three missions identified as 'Raum Dorog Nachtflug', two of which occurred on 20th March 1942 and one on 22nd March 1942. On the first of these missions (between 03:27 and 06:20 on 20th March) there is a comment 'Abschuss DB 3'. This falls outside the dates discussed before but appears to be in the same area, assuming 'Dorog' is Dorogobuzh.

The pilot of the aircraft is Leutnant Erich Horn (mentioned earlier in the thread) and the Flugbuch I have is for his Air Gunner Unteroffizier Werner Petersen (later Oberfeldwebel, DKiG). They are a 5./KG 53 crew but fly A1+GN for two of the missions and A1+AP for one of them.

All of their claims are as follows:

20th March 1942 between 03:27 and 06:20, flying A1+GN - 1 TB-3 shot down Dorogobuzh area

Further claims are made as follows:

12th May 1942 between 20:45 and 22:30, flying A1+AN - 1 TB-3 shot down Yelnya area
22nd May 1942 between 20:00 and 23:50 , flying A1+AN - 2 TB 3 shot down Yelnya area
30th/31st May 1942 between 23:23 and 02:18, flying A1+AN - 1 TB-3 shot down Yelnya area

Quite a lot of night flights were flown during May 1942 to achieve these 'kills' but night operations seem to have ended on 2nd June 1942 and the crew resumed daylight operations from 3rd June.

Does anyone have more information on this now?

Re: KG 53 night claims

Good morning Tim O.,

can you tell me the final total score of Erich Horn ?

Michael

Re: KG 53 night claims

Hi Michael

I only know of the 5 recorded above.

Re: KG 53 night claims

Hello Tim,

and all of these 5 kills of Erich Horn were scored in the He 111, weren't they ?

Have a nice Saturday,

Michael

Re: KG 53 night claims

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Originally Posted by knusel (Post 249310)

and all of these 5 kills of Erich Horn were scored in the He 111, weren't they ?

Yes, as KG53 only operated the He111 for their missions. The 15th Staffel is the only exception to this rule.

Which means that not just Lt. Horn’s claims, but all claims made by members of KG53 were scored in the He111.

Regards, Thomas

Re: KG 53 night claims

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Originally Posted by Thomas H (Post 249316)

Thomas is of course correct.

Re: KG 53 night claims

Good morning Gentlemen,

is it true that all of Arnold Döring's 10 He 111 kills were scored with KG 55 ?

Cheers,

Michael