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Franek Grabowski 24th January 2022 21:35

Re: Blue on Blue footage (US x RAF Mosquito?)
 
Nick
It is not exactly like that. Overlord stripes were removed by the end of August 1944 IIRC, then Market-Garden stripes applied under fuselages only. Around the time full fuselage stripes were introduced for twin engined aircraft. It is much more confusing than it may seem.

Buckeye30 25th January 2022 15:24

Re: Blue on Blue footage (US x RAF Mosquito?)
 
Hi Franek.

The SHAEF Memorandum (No.23) which had ordered the application of the stripes (in April) was amended several times to remove them in stages.........
July 6 amended to remove stripes fro upper surfaces.
Aug.19 amended to remove from below wings but retain fuselage ones.
Oct. 13 Change no.4 to be left under fuselage only.
Dec.6 Memo.23-- suspended until the 31st, remaining stripes to be removed except for 34 (PR) Wing / 2nd TAF at Northolt ( 16, 69 and 140 Sqns)*******.
As mentioned above not all Eighth-Ninth fighters complied exactly and some didn't bother to take the stripes off the bellies.
The glider-tow aircraft mostly Stirlings marked bands on for Market Garden, right round the fuselages.

Nick

Adriano Baumgartner 25th January 2022 22:04

Re: Blue on Blue footage (US x RAF Mosquito?)
 
NICK (Buckeye)

Nice stuff (material) regarding this SHAEF Memorandum. Thanks for sharing this with us!

Franek Grabowski 26th January 2022 15:09

Re: Blue on Blue footage (US x RAF Mosquito?)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Buckeye30 (Post 315399)
Hi Franek.

The SHAEF Memorandum (No.23) which had ordered the application of the stripes (in April) was amended several times to remove them in stages.........
July 6 amended to remove stripes fro upper surfaces.
Aug.19 amended to remove from below wings but retain fuselage ones.
Oct. 13 Change no.4 to be left under fuselage only.
Dec.6 Memo.23-- suspended until the 31st, remaining stripes to be removed except for 34 (PR) Wing / 2nd TAF at Northolt ( 16, 69 and 140 Sqns)*******.
As mentioned above not all Eighth-Ninth fighters complied exactly and some didn't bother to take the stripes off the bellies.
The glider-tow aircraft mostly Stirlings marked bands on for Market Garden, right round the fuselages.

Nick


Thanks! I think it is a bit more complicated. Eg. 133 Wg ADGB flew sans stripes during Antidiver Campaign, but had stripes reapplied during September. Also CC aircraft flew with full fuse stripes at least until December. Also, IIRC, there are known photos of No 305 Sqn Mossies (2 TAF) with full fuse stripes but sans wings.

Andy Fletcher 27th January 2022 11:58

Re: Blue on Blue footage (US x RAF Mosquito?)
 
RAF Benson was asking for special dispensation for the removal of invasion stripes from its Spitfires and Mosquitos withing weeks of them being applied.


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