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paulmcmillan 2nd November 2006 17:09

Re: 'Yellow 16' recovered today
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by John Beaman (Post 31876)
If this is WNr 425, I have this as an A-2, lost June 2, 1943 from IV./JG 5, crash landed due to engine trougble. I have no pilot listed.

If it is an A-2, Kjetil, it would have "slot" louvers as opposed to the "flap" type which were only on late production A-4s and all A-5s on.

John that was WNr. 0120 425

John it supposed to be.... 0125 425

See: http://www.rafandluftwaffe.info/lists/luftwaffe10.htm


15-12-1943 Focke-Wulf Fw 190 A-2 Jagdstaffel ?./IV./JG 5 unk ?N WNr. 0125 425 unk Accident bad weather 100% Pilot unk - Dit/s unknown area (Pl.Qu.06/Ost/4163)

GonerNL 2nd November 2006 17:32

Re: 'Yellow 16' recovered today
 
What a coincidence !!

There was a picture in the newspaper, so I came looking here, hoping for some more info or maybe post the pic and ask about it.

Text accompanying the picture was : "A German warplane, lying in the North Sea near the Norwegian island Sotra, has been recovered. The plane crashed on Dec. 15 1943. The pilot was the only survivor of this aerial disaster".

Especially the last part intrigued me ... the Fw190 being a single-seater.
A disaster is when a 747 crashes IMHO.

Andreas Brekken 2nd November 2006 18:53

Re: 'Yellow 16' recovered today
 
Hehe... hardly a disaster, no injuries at all....

Regards,
Andreas B

Franek Grabowski 2nd November 2006 19:12

Re: 'Yellow 16' recovered today
 
Well, two questions.
I understand that the decisions will be finally undertaken after cleaning of the airframe, but is it planned to preserve it as it is, if possible?
Old black codes are visible on the photos, and I presume this aircraft may have previously served with another unit, eg. on Channel front. Is there any record of it or perhaps an overpainted unit emblem?
Good find!

Ruy Horta 2nd November 2006 19:44

Re: 'Yellow 16' recovered today
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Andreas Brekken (Post 31888)
Hehe... hardly a disaster, no injuries at all....

Was thinking the same thing, pretty silly text!!

Kuba Plewka 2nd November 2006 19:46

Re: 'Yellow 16' recovered today
 
What is interesting, the flaps seem to be still set to a start position and I wonder if this Fw 190 flew with two MG 151/20 only or the MG 17 were lost during accident or raised later? Is it possible to see if their ammo boxes are still on the firewall or they are removed too?

Still amazed ;)
Kuba

John Beaman 2nd November 2006 19:46

Re: 'Yellow 16' recovered today
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Andreas Brekken (Post 31882)
Hi, John.

Check 15.12.1943

Regards,
Andreas

Yep, WNr 5425, same Gruppe of JG 5 and an A-2. Are you saying this is the recovered machine and the same machine? as listed in June? If so, I guess it was repaired after the June BL.

Thanks

Chrille 2nd November 2006 20:22

Re: 'Yellow 16' recovered today
 
Hello! And its not every day`s catch too get that from the sea, wich bait did you use?

Good luck with all further work.

Best regards Chrille

Kjetil Aakra 2nd November 2006 21:00

Re: 'Yellow 16' recovered today
 
Mr. Beaman.

You are correct in that the cooling slits are wrong on my profile. That was because I expected them to be modified as on many other A-2/3s used by JG 5 in 1943-45, i.e. with cooling flaps attached (I started work on this profile months ago, working from underwater photage). See for instance how the majority of 14.(J)/JG 5's A-3s appeared.

This correction and a few other imrpovements are being implemented right now!

The MG cover and MG 17s were removed by divers prior to the rescue.

Kjetil

Kjetil Aakra 2nd November 2006 21:04

Re: 'Yellow 16' recovered today
 
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b3...ow16_pub-1.jpg


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