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Marc-André Haldimann 25th February 2007 14:14

Re: Me 109G-14 and FW 190S in Köthen, Germany 1945
 
Hi Robert,

Thanks for the infotmaion; any 109's on the site where you found W.N.r 210194?

Marc

robert 25th February 2007 14:24

Re: Me 109G-14 and FW 190S in Köthen, Germany 1945
 
No. Only this one.

Robert

lumabe 26th February 2007 09:06

Re: Me 109G-14 and FW 190S in Köthen, Germany 1945
 
Hello,

For the FW 190 S-8 W.nr. 680430,

http://www.soldiersmuseum.com/pages/...armored-56.htm

i don't find the emblem on the books:
-Luftwaffe emblems 1939-1945
-Luftwaffe fledglings 1935-1945
from Hikoki publications.

Anybody have this emblem in another book ? Or another picture ?

On the book Luftwaffe codes, markings and units 1939-1945 from military history book; the JG110 was formed from FFS/B 10 but the emblem of this school unit was a black rabbit. I don't think that it's this emblem on the picture.

Thank you in advance,

Best regards,

Lumabe.

Marc-André Haldimann 26th February 2007 13:55

Re: Me 109G-14 and FW 190S in Köthen, Germany 1945
 
Hi Lumabe,

The only probable reference I've found so far is: Rodeike 1998, 372 shows also a FW 190S-8 "White 30" but seen from the other side. If this is the case, Rodeike gives the unit as 1./JG 110.

Source: Rodeike 1998: Peter Rodeike, Focke-Wulf Jagdflugzeug, Fw 190A, Fw 190 "Dora" Ta 152H, Struve-Druck, Eutin.

Hope this helps

Marc

Skyraider3D 26th February 2007 14:49

Re: Me 109G-14 and FW 190S in Köthen, Germany 1945
 
Odd tailfin!
http://www.soldiersmuseum.com/pages/...armored-64.htm

Marc-André Haldimann 26th February 2007 15:08

Re: Me 109G-14 and FW 190S in Köthen, Germany 1945
 
Yep,

looks lik the old Matchbox 1/72 scale FW 190 kit...

Marc

Kuba Plewka 26th February 2007 15:20

Re: Me 109G-14 and FW 190S in Köthen, Germany 1945
 
It's a survivor Fw 190 A-2 or A-3 :)
Even the national markings seem original, early style ones.

cheers
Kuba

Marc-André Haldimann 26th February 2007 15:30

Re: Me 109G-14 and FW 190S in Köthen, Germany 1945
 
Kuba, Skyraider,

By magnifiying this odd FW 190 A picture, I did just notice the very small Stammkennzeichen DK+EG. An other oddity!

Cheers

Marc

Kjetil Aakra 26th February 2007 16:23

Re: Me 109G-14 and FW 190S in Köthen, Germany 1945
 
I think this early war Fw 190 (A-2/3) is the very same as seen in Luftwaffe im Focus No. 8 page 47, lower photo. That image is of much higher quality but being a close-up it only shows the latter part of the code (+BG) and a numeral "3" which may have been green, red or blue! The numeral is obscured in this full-view image.

The camouflage and overpainted original Stammkennzeichen (see the uniformly coloured patches behind and in front of the Balkenkreuz) are the same on both photos. Even the mottling matches!

Regards,

Kjetil

Falcon 26th February 2007 16:49

Re: Me 109G-14 and FW 190S in Köthen, Germany 1945
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Marc-André Haldimann (Post 38473)
Thanks Harold, for the lead. You're positive it's the one and same machine?

Regards

Marc

It can be the same plane. Note the broken down pitot tube. Its same position in both photos.


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