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Bertrand H 30th April 2010 04:38

Re: Which stories behind these photos?
 
Hi,

Another and different photo of this Blenheim R3662 has been previously published by ebay. The caption of this WV-T given Dunkerque. A/C was belly-landed on the beach.

P9317 is certainly the serial of the SD-A.

Topic here :

http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showthread.php?t=18668

HTH

Bertrand

Fairlop 30th April 2010 09:18

Re: Which stories behind these photos?
 
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Quote:

P9317 is certainly the serial of the SD-A.
Salut Bertrand & all,

Correct, it is P9317 of the 222 Sqn. I attach another picture with s/n.
It should be the same machine in fornt of what F/L Bader was photographed in May 1940. See Darkar´s BoB.

Michal

Parabellum 30th April 2010 23:31

Re: Which stories behind these photos?
 
78 Sqn RAF / Handley Page Halifax Mk 11 / Serial BB236
Lost on night of 1st october 1942 over Flensburg_crashed at Friedenshugel (Source Lost Bombers website).
Code is now fully known : EY°B
http://cgi.ebay.de/014-2x-Orig-Foto-...item1e5bb21aa4
http://cgi.ebay.de/013-Orig-Foto-age...item1e5bb21a9e
http://cgi.ebay.de/012-Orig-Foto-age...item20b0b7d93c
http://cgi.ebay.de/011-Orig-Foto-age...item20b0b7d93a
http://cgi.ebay.de/010-Orig-Foto-age...item20b0b7d932
http://cgi.ebay.de/009-Orig-Foto-age...item20b0b7d92a
http://cgi.ebay.de/008-Orig-Foto-age...item1e5bb21a78
http://cgi.ebay.de/007-Orig-Foto-age...item20b0b7d91e

Larry 1st May 2010 20:08

Re: Which stories behind these photos?
 
Concerning BB236, four of the crew were killed: Sgt EH Tytherleigh, F/O JH Carrick RCAF, F/O GM Gillies RCAF, and Sgt NR Jones RAAF.

Sgt EW Parr (pilot), Sgt GE Swift and Sgt J Cunningham were taken POW and from the photos it seems the pilot had a lucky escape as those other poor men shown in the wreckage were probably those grouped in the forward fuselage - ie Flight Engineer, Observer, Bomber Aimer, Wireless Op.

Parabellum 2nd May 2010 23:35

Re: Which stories behind these photos?
 
Spitfire sporting U.S stars. Pianosa? JK2(5)?
http://cgi.ebay.de/3-Fotos-MG-42-abg...item5887790d47

Parabellum 3rd May 2010 00:01

Re: Which stories behind these photos?
 
P-47 Razorback belly landing. YF°X
http://cgi.ebay.de/5660-JAGD-FLUGZEU...item2eacd1bfa2
http://cgi.ebay.de/5659-JAGD-FLUGZEU...item2eacd1b851
...and E2°G
http://cgi.ebay.de/5640-JAGD-FLUGZEU...item2eacd1a20f

kaki3152 3rd May 2010 05:01

Re: Which stories behind these photos?
 
1) Spitfire wearing US markings--Spitfire Vc 2nd FS 52nd FG code QP lost date ?
2) P-47D YF*X-Capt Walter Kossack P-47D-5 lost November 7,1943,sn 42-8477, 355th FG
3) P-47D E2-G -375 FS 361 FG-Possibly s/n 42-75219 bellied in on April 27,1944.Lt. Jack Cornett POW. The 361th FG coverted to P-51s in May 1944.

brewerjerry 3rd May 2010 18:21

Re: Which stories behind these photos?
 
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Hi All,
Currently on e bay, a wellington,
I can't make out if the a/c has an ASV ( or remains of ) aerial under the port wing.
Anyone with more knowledge or better eyesight...
Cheers
Jerry


http://cgi.ebay.ca/Foto-Engl-Bomber-...item439ee72ff5


only a small photo attached, a larger one is viewable via the e bay auction.

Larry 3rd May 2010 23:05

Re: Which stories behind these photos?
 
I have looked at the enlarged version and I do not think this Wellington has ASV especially as aircraft that carried the early 1.5 metre wavelength ASV had four mast aerials on the top of the rear fuselage. There is no trace of these.

It is in typical Bomber Command colours of 1941 and although Mk 1C were converted to GR Mk VIII equipped with ASV in the Middle East I think this is a standard bomber version.

I think the photo has been taken in the desert of a Wellington abandoned on an airstrip that's been captured by the Axis and that the bits hanging down are damage.

Parabellum 6th May 2010 19:05

Re: Which stories behind these photos?
 
Blenheim YH°D: 11 SQN ? MTO?
http://cgi.ebay.de/Abgeschossenes-en...item53e12a9ebd

Parabellum 7th May 2010 22:58

Re: Which stories behind these photos?
 
Handley Page Hampden: ??°P which SQN? which place?
http://cgi.ebay.de/FOTO-FLUGZEUG-FRA...item4aa0fde6af

Larry 8th May 2010 00:29

Re: Which stories behind these photos?
 
Hampdens that the Germans got hold of were P2070 VN-X of 50 Sqn, L4146 QR-P and P4324 also QR-P both of 61 Sqn, AE265 of 144 Sqn PL-? and AT109 UB-C of 455 Sqn.

So the latest photo of Hampden 'P' could be one of those from 61 Sqn and as P4324 landed in Vlieland off the Dutch coast and we have seen photos of it I reckon this new photo is L4146 that force landed in Germany out of fuel on 24th May 1940.

Incidentally the roundal looks typically 1940 and the green and brown camo is still painted on the fuselage sides (fuselage sides were painted black from late 1940 onwards)

The D/F loop is of the early retractable type before the fixed streamlined versions were fitted, all of which indicate early war period

brewerjerry 8th May 2010 04:03

Re: Which stories behind these photos?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Parabellum (Post 106392)

Hi
Just a thought, but maybe 21 Sqn and France ?
cheers
Jerry

Aviator 8th May 2010 18:44

Re: Which stories behind these photos?
 
Hi!

It looks more for a 112 sqdr. aircraft

regards

brewerjerry 8th May 2010 22:59

Re: Which stories behind these photos?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Aviator (Post 106505)
Hi!

It looks more for a 112 sqdr. aircraft

regards


Hi
Interesting I didn't know 112 Sqn had blenheims, or used code 'YH'
cheers
Jerry

Larry 9th May 2010 00:08

Re: Which stories behind these photos?
 
Just to end the confusion YH was used on 21 Sqn Lockheed Venturas in NW Europe and by 11 Sqn in the Middle East on Blenheims.

The photo of the Blenheim on this thread is virtually the same setting as the YH-L coded Blenheim said to be abandoned in Crete - as seen on Page 32 of 'In Enemy Hands' by Bryan Philpott by PSL 1981. Even the way the aircraft individual code has been placed on YH-D is the same as YH-L.

112 Sqn was a Fighter Sqn flying the Tomahawks and Kittyhawks for much of WW2.

brewerjerry 9th May 2010 02:01

Re: Which stories behind these photos?
 
Hi Larry,
Thanks for clearing it up.
cheers
Jerry

Parabellum 10th May 2010 23:46

Re: Which stories behind these photos?
 
11 SQN too... Blenheim YH°A Serial ?27??
http://cgi.ebay.de/FOTO-FLUGZEUG-Eng...item563c4ea1cc
...and YH°R
http://cgi.ebay.de/2WK-Foto-ENGLISCH...item3effa701bb

Parabellum 11th May 2010 00:12

Re: Which stories behind these photos?
 
Hurricane in Belgium? A?°?
http://cgi.ebay.de/Foto-Belgien-abge...item3effa71bd3
http://cgi.ebay.de/Foto-2-Wk-abgesch...item3effa72a39

Aviator 13th May 2010 16:01

Re: Which stories behind these photos?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by brewerjerry (Post 106528)
Hi Larry,
Thanks for clearing it up.
cheers
Jerry

I am sorry for writing 112.I wanted to write 113 squadron instead which operated in Greece.To my opinion its T2168 crashed on landing at Niamata.See:http://113squadron.com/id21.htm
at aircrews and losses the 2nd pic from top at the background.Maybe its good to compare the pics if we could see the one Larry wrote. He could be right though.

regards

Parabellum 14th May 2010 00:34

Re: Which stories behind these photos?
 
If not wrong, 85 squadron... Hurricane VY°B
Which place?
http://cgi.ebay.de/059-Orig-Foto-Flu...item20b0ea5fbe

Parabellum 17th May 2010 23:03

Re: Which stories behind these photos?
 
Blenheim: Nice side view of WV°S
http://cgi.ebay.de/Britischer-Bomber...item1c1297e070
Likely WV°S too
http://cgi.ebay.de/Franz-Flugzeug-Bo...item1c1297df6a

montana 18th May 2010 12:20

Re: Which stories behind these photos?
 
Blenheim IV WV-S/L8875 landed on 30/4/1940 at Brussels-Evere. The crew members : Sgt Thomas (pilot), Sgt Talbot (observer) and LAC Smith (gunner). They were lost and seeing Battle on the airfield, they thought they were in France and landed on Evere airfield. They were interned.

ChristianK 13th June 2010 16:17

Re: Which stories behind these photos?
 
Any info about this Spit?

http://cgi.ebay.de/2xFoto-Flugzeug-J...item335e08afe0

Christian

Bertrand H 13th June 2010 19:11

Re: Which stories behind these photos?
 
Hello Christian,

It is the well-known Spit I K9664 shot down on 15 august 1940 by Lt G. Muller-Duhe (7./JG26)

A/C lost close to Calais-MArck.

Bertrand

ChristianK 13th June 2010 19:19

Re: Which stories behind these photos?
 
Ok, I see; thanks Bertrand!

Cheers,
Christian

ChristianK 19th June 2010 12:15

Re: Which stories behind these photos?
 
Hurricane P2537 NV°K, any additional info?

http://cgi.ebay.com/WWII-Photo-RAF-H...item19bd368364

Christian

Parabellum 29th June 2010 23:35

Re: Which stories behind these photos?
 
Crashlanding in the mud of a swamp?
Spit KL°F or KL°E?
http://cgi.ebay.de/1-fotoalbum-Seite...item45f3bc44e9

Fairlop 30th June 2010 08:20

Re: Which stories behind these photos?
 
Quote:

Crashlanding in the mud of a swamp?
Spit KL°F or KL°E?
http://cgi.ebay.de/1-fotoalbum-Seite...item45f3bc44e9
Spitfire IIA, P7443, KL°E
Sgt Squire, 54 Sqn
s/d by Hptm. Ihlefeld of I./LG 2 near Calais, 26/2/1941

Regards,
Michal

Larry 1st July 2010 00:11

Re: Which stories behind these photos?
 
Hurricane P2537 belonged to 79 Sqn and is recorded as 'lost in France' May 1940.

Its hard to tell whether its been stripped of bits to repair other Hurricance of suffered damage by ground crew to stop it being used by the Germans.

Parabellum 1st July 2010 22:22

Re: Which stories behind these photos?
 
Hurricane YP°Y
July 1942?
http://cgi.ebay.de/036-Orig-Foto-Flu...item20b1dae32c
W76??
http://cgi.ebay.de/035-5x-Orig-Foto-...item1e5ccc04b2

Fairlop 2nd July 2010 08:12

Re: Which stories behind these photos?
 
Quote:

Hurricane YP°Y
July 1942?
http://cgi.ebay.de/036-Orig-Foto-Flu...item20b1dae32c
Hurricane IIB, BE684, XP°Y
Sgt Denison, 174 Sqn, POW
St. Omer area, 30/7/1942

Another picture of salvaged BE684 exists too.
Regards,
Michal

Parabellum 2nd July 2010 22:30

Re: Which stories behind these photos?
 
Thanks Michal!
Is not it written 08/07/1942 on backside of the photo?

Fairlop 2nd July 2010 23:46

Re: Which stories behind these photos?
 
Quote:

Is not it written 08/07/1942 on backside of the photo?
Hi Parabellum,

I didn´t note it but now I see it. Strange because the identification of s/n from this new, and my source gives BE684. With other indicia like roundel, field shape it frames the period for summer. Last loss for the 174 Sqn before 30/7 was Sgt Mort already on 2/6 during Circus to Foret d´Eu.

Regards,
Michal

Larry 2nd July 2010 23:49

Re: Which stories behind these photos?
 
Did the Germans mean by chance 7th August - ie as the Americans would do

ChristianK 30th July 2010 02:51

Re: Which stories behind these photos?
 
Just discovered by Ed West:
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...=STRK:MEWAX:IT

Any info?

Cheers,
Christian

brewerjerry 30th July 2010 04:40

Re: Which stories behind these photos?
 
Hi
On the auction lister captions it as
P7606, PR-O or PL-O


29 Aug. Spitfire II P7606 (PK-O) F/Lt B. Mickiewicz (POW) Circus 85. Shot down by a Bf109 over Hazebrouck.

from the excellent website
http://www.polishsquadronsremembered.com/

which has a photo of the other side after recovery in a yard.
Cheers
Jerry

ChristianK 30th July 2010 13:07

Re: Which stories behind these photos?
 
Thanks Jerry, and for that great link too:)

Christian

Parabellum 23rd August 2010 12:08

Re: Which stories behind these photos?
 
Maybe somebody could afford precisions regarding this one?
http://cgi.ebay.de/Originalfoto-Flug...3?pt=Militaria

Parabellum 16th September 2010 00:33

Re: Which stories behind these photos?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Parabellum (Post 112337)
Maybe somebody could afford precisions regarding this one?
http://cgi.ebay.de/Originalfoto-Flug...3?pt=Militaria

?L°E code, nothing else?


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