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Hurricane P3732, which was lost in Greece.
There seems to be confusion about the circumstances of its loss.
According to AIR81/6133: https://discovery.nationalarchives.g...ls/r/C16755431
it was shot down on 15 April 1941.

Buckeye30

2nd November 2024 13:42

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Hi Andy. A mystery, a Greek archaeology association says the pilot F/L J F Mackie (Canadian) was shot down in either P3732 or V7419 on the 15th. but the latter was most likely P/O Chetham as per National Archives. Both pilots were certainly killed (JG77); the wrecks were found near Larissa by the river Pinelos. A 33 Sqn. erk records the 2 pilots were "Chatham" and "Jackie", obviously mis-spelt. The aircraft in the German photo (including P3732 and some Greek) were lost to "strafing in the South-East area". Would you agree that Mackie was shot down in another ?

By 18 May the ORB states " all our remaining machines having been wrecked by strafing or shot down".
Regards
Nick
Incidentally Hobby Master do a model of V7419 supposedly flown by Pattle in April.

Stig Jarlevik

2nd November 2024 15:13

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Reading Air War for Yugoslavia, Greece and Crete 1940-41 the three authors says regarding the losses

"Lt Jacob Arnoldy obtained hits on Charles Chetham's aircraft. Onlookers saw the latter come down in a
seemingly controlled glide and disappear behind some trees outside the airfield boundary; he was in fact
killed".

Mackie then shot down Arnoldy and then "Fw Otto Köhler engaged him from astern. The Hurricane
flipped over, caught fire and exploded on crashing, killing the Canadian pilot."

What about if we change the two aircraft?
Mackie lost in V7419 and Chetham in P3732?

It is perhaps even more possible that P3732 was among the many Hurricanes DBR by strafing 109s
at Larissa (33Sq's base) later during the same day.
Looking at the picture the cockpit looks intact, aircraft has its wheels down etc very much looking
like an aircraft which has been damaged on the ground....

B Rgds
Stig

edwest2

3rd November 2024 00:23

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