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Re: eBay: German intrest

Generator-Notstromaggregat-Wehrmacht-Luftwaffe https://www.ebay.de/itm/Generator-No...QAAOSwR8ZawxPf
Aerial Henschel-Werke-Rothenditmold-1945 https://www.ebay.de/itm/WWII-US-AAF-...IAAOSwlL1awldR
Tupolev SB-2 Condor Spain https://www.ebay.de/itm/Legion-Condo...UAAOSw0aNawxPq
Ju77 St.G 77 Ukraine-Polen-Holland-Rumanien https://www.ebay.de/itm/550-Fotos-Lu...IAAOSw8BRawocc
Ju88 Wellen camo PN+N? https://www.ebay.de/itm/Fotos-German...AAAOSwfXJawoKc

Re: eBay: German intrest

In #313

Looks like PN+M for that Ju 88.

Chuck

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In #284 item 2, the Ju52 with dot-dash tail marking is probably from 3/KGrzbV50. KGrzbV50 stab and staffeln used various combinations of a dot with varying positions of dash to signify the staffel. 1/staffel was at 9 o'clock, 2/ at 12o'c, 3/ at 3o'c, 4/ at 6o'c with stab using no dash. KGrzbV900 used a similar system but was of a larger size and usually on the rudder. This information was provided by Gerhard Stemmer on LEMB.
Regards
Peter

Re: eBay: German intrest

Italian wrecks https://www.ebay.com/itm/1944-WWII-U...MAAOSwrLRaw8oK
Wooden flak tower airfield protection https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Peine-H...oAAOSw3K1aw~oA
Wooden flak tower airfield protection https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Peine-H....c100005.m1851
Wooden flak tower airfield protection https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Peine-H....c100005.m1851
Emblem Whale Geschwaderabzeichen-Fluggruppe-IV-43-Stab https://www.ebay.de/itm/Geschwaderab...cAAOSwlrFaxJ9C

Re: eBay: German intrest

Thank you, Snautzer, for the whale emblem.

Ed

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Thank you, Snautzer, for the Flak towers................they came in all shapes and sizes, I guess. The poor gunners were sitting targets for P-47 and P-51 strafers, not to mention the Spits and Typhoons.

L.

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No, i dont think so Larry. German is as German do. For i.g. bunkers they had Standiger Ausbau formats. See pic
And as it was for sitting ducks: a lot of casualties came by attacking these airfields. It was quite the opposite

Re: eBay: German intrest

Hi Snautzer -

What you says about standardized construction plans is true and there almost certainly were some for the airfield Flak towers, although I've never found them. But the low-level gun camera film from strafers and diagrams and sketches worked up from these by Air Ministry A.I.2.(b) show a lot of variety, leading us to conclude that the Fliegerhorst Bauamt had a lot of latitude on the design of these depending on the availability of construction material and other factors.

But yes, the strafers did not like to attack the Flak towers! Very high risk. So tactics were developed on how to do it by minimizing the danger to the attackers, usually by several aircraft hitting the tower at the same time from different directions and altitudes. Many of the 8th and 9th AAF fighter groups had Flak suppression teams who specialized in this work. When one of these towers was hit at close range by all 8 x .50 cal. guns of a P-47 it was like putting it through a wood chipper - there was little left, including gunners.

The two books below address this subject in some detail:

Miller, Kent D. Fighter Units & Pilots of the 8th Air Force – September 1942 – May 1945; Volume 1: Day-to-Day Operations, Fighter Group Histories. Atglen (PA): Schiffer Publishing, 2001. ISBN: 0-7643-1241-3. Oversize Hb. 486p. A few photos. A statistical compilation.
Wolf, William. American Fighter-Bombers in World War II: USAF Jabos in the MTO and ETO. Atglen (PA): Schiffer Publishing, 2003. ISBN: 0-7643-1878-0. Oversize Hb. Laminated cover. 391p. Well illustrated. Color profiles. Appendices. Names index.

L.